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    Posted: 09 January 2006 at 2:17pm

This article is detailing the loss of faith in Europe.  Though it focuses on the decline of Christianity, I feel it runs a deeper course.  The decline in the belief of God is universally damaging to all three of the Peoples of the Book.  This trend should concern us all.  No wonder souls are turning to Islam in Europe, the soul aches for the Light of God.

Is God dead in Europe?

By James P. GannonMon Jan 9, 7:06 AM ET

Two snapshots from a recent tourist trip to Europe: We are in Prague, the lovely and lively capital of the Czech Republic, where the bars and cafes are full, the glitzy crystal and art shops are busy, and the dozens of historic cathedrals and churches are largely empty - except for gawking tourists snapping photos. In The Prague Post, an English-language weekly newspaper, a front-page article reports, in titillating detail, how the city has become Europe's new capital for pornographic filmmaking, while an op-ed examines why only 19% of the people in this once-religious country believe that God exists.

Change the scene to Rome. We are at the Vatican, swimming in a sea of 150,000 people waiting in St. Peter's Square for Pope Benedict XVI to appear at a special celebration for Catholic children who have made their first communion in the past year. Rock bands and kids' choirs entertain the faithful until a roar sweeps through the crowd at the first sighting of the "Popemobile," carrying the waving, white-robed Benedict down barricaded lanes through the throng. The crowd goes wild.

For an American Catholic visitor, Europe is a puzzling and sometimes discouraging place these days. Is God dead here? Many signs suggest that Europeans think so.

Decline in attendance

"Common wisdom has it that alcoholics outnumber practicing Christians and that more Czechs believe in UFOs than believe in God - and common wisdom may be correct," wrote Nate and Leah Seppanen Anderson in a Prague Post commentary; he's a freelance writer, and she's a political science professor at Wheaton College in Illinois and a specialist in Czech politics and society. Surveys show a sharp decline in church attendance and religious practice in most European countries. A series of Eurobarometer surveys since 1970 in five key countries (France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Italy) shows that regular church attendance fell from about 40% of the population to about half that figure. Declines were sharpest in predominantly Catholic nations.

Even so, how do we account for the extraordinary outpouring of grief at Pope John Paul II's death in April and the enthusiasm that his successor seems to evoke? Are these mere public spectacles, signifying nothing about Europe's drift from its religious roots, or are they signs of yearning for something more than peace, prosperity and la dolce vita?

As only an occasional visitor to Europe, I claim no expertise in these matters. But some who do see the emergence of a post-Christian era in Europe that has profound consequences for the continent and perhaps is an ominous portend for the United States. Where Europe has gone, America could be going - and that is a prospect that is frightening Christians and sharpening the religious divide in this country.

Western Europe, the cradle of modern Christianity, has become a "post-Christian society" in which the ruling class and cultural leaders are anti-religious or "Christophobic," writes George Weigel, a Catholic columnist and U.S. biographer of Pope John Paul II. In his new book, The Cube and the Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics Without God, he argues that religious differences help explain the policy tensions between Europe and the United States.

"It would be too simple to say that the reason Americans and Europeans see the world so differently is that the former go to church on Sundays and the latter don't," Weigel writes. "But it would also be a grave mistake to think that the dramatic differences in religious belief and practice in the United States and Europe don't have something important to do with those different perceptions of the world - and the different policies to which those perceptions eventually lead."

A fierce controversy over any mention of Europe's Christian heritage erupted in 2004 when officials were drafting a constitution for the European Union, Weigel notes.

Any mention of the continent's religious past or contributions of Christian culture - in a preface citing the sources of Europe's distinct civilization - would be exclusionary and offensive to non-Christians, many argued. Former French president Valery Giscard d'Estaing, who presided over the process, summed up the dominant view: "Europeans live in a purely secular political system, where religion does not play an important role."

'Demographic suicide'

Among the consequences of Europe's abandonment of its religious roots and the moral code that derives therefrom is a plunge in its birth rates to below the replacement level. Abortion, birth control, acceptance of gay marriage and casual sex are driving the trend. Europe is "committing demographic suicide, systematically depopulating itself," according to Weigel.

United Nations population statistics back him up.

Not a single Western European country has a fertility rate sufficient to replace the current population, which demographers say requires 2.1 children per family. Germany, Russia, Spain, Poland and Italy all have rates of about 1.3 children, according to the U.N. The Czech Republic's is less than 1.2, and even Roman Catholic Ireland is at 1.9 children. (The U.S. rate, which has remained stable, is slightly more than 2 children per woman.)

Fifteen countries, "mostly located in Southern and Eastern Europe, have reached levels of fertility unprecedented in human history," according to the U.N.'s World Population Prospects 2004 revision.

As children grow scarce and longevity increases in Europe, the continent is becoming one vast Leisure World. By 2050, the U.N. projects, more than 40% of the people in Italy will be 60 or older. By mid-century, populations in 25 European nations will be lower than they are now; Russia will lose 31 million people, Italy 7.2 million, Poland 6.6 million and Germany 3.9 million. So Europe is abandoning religion, growing older, shrinking and slowly killing itself. These are signs of a society in eclipse - the Roman Empire writ large. Is this any model for America?

In his 2001 book, The Death of the West, conservative commentator Patrick Buchanan argues that a European-style "de-Christianization of America" is the goal of many liberals - and they are succeeding.

Court decisions that have banned school-sponsored prayer, removed many Nativity scenes from public squares, and legalized gay marriage are part of that pattern, as is the legal effort to erase "In God We Trust" from U.S. currency and "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance.

Europe is showing us where this path leads. It is not the right path for America.

James P. Gannon is a retired journalist and author ofA Life in Print: Selections from the Work of a Reporter, Columnist and Editor.

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"It would be too simple to say that the reason Americans and Europeans see the world so differently is that the former go to church on Sundays and the latter don't," Weigel writes. "But it would also be a grave mistake to think that the dramatic differences in religious belief and practice in the United States and Europe don't have something important to do with those different perceptions of the world - and the different policies to which those perceptions eventually lead."

Quite true. The religious culture of Europe is declining but why?

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I think its declining as the focus on logic and reason are continually separated from religion.  I know in the northeast US, people who consider themselves educated say religion is superstition and irrationality.  There is a push by "intellectuals" to free society from this superstitious belief that holds them back.

What they don't understand is that it is completely rational to have faith and believe in a Supreme Being.  No one would call the Dali Lama irrational or uneducated. 

Also, there is a weakening of morals and a push for expressing yourself in ways that are contrary to many faiths.  You cannot be religious and accept homosexuality as a normal acceptable behaviour.  So, the more people who accept homosexual partnerships and two people living together unmarried, the less people believe in the basic laws of God.

We face this in my own family.  I lived with my husband before we were married.  We looked at each other one day and decided we could no longer live in sin.  We were married within two weeks of that decision.  My Uncle and his girlfriend have been living together for 15 years.  When they asked us why and we told them we were setting things right and repenting, they acted like we slapped them in the face.  Most of the family disagrees but its not socially acceptable to tell my Uncle and his girlfriend that we all think they are sinning.

I see the trend starting here in the US too, but luckily, the trend that was surging in the 90s of anti-religion is actually swung back and more people are going to church, mosque and synagogue.

So, why did 9/11 not affect Europe similarly, or Madrid or London?  What is different about Europe? Perhaps the state imposed atheism of the Soviet Blok, or is it the push for one European state????

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A few points here.

9/11 was a phenonmenon. People went to church because of the collective conscious of the preciousness of life. I wasn't impressed. In catestrophic circumstances people all of a sudden remember God. But prior to that, people go about daily lives forgetting. As for the atheist intellectuals they are few and they are not even a bother.

In regards to our moral values in respect with homosexuality I myself am a different being than most and I do consider myself unorthodox ini this matter. I know of many gay students whom I have befriended. I cannot say that for myself which right for me, that someone who shares a different conviction be it religion or sex etc cannot judge another human based on how I believe. I don't think if a society which acts on such principle sare immoral per say. For example shouldn't we give the same respect to peoples of different faiths? Why not those who share a different view on sexuality? Of course this doesn't solve the problem of the declining of religion but I wanted to explain.

I believe what the problem here is not sexuality of the emergence of Islam in Europe but is the problem of forgetting God. Like I said before this phenonmenon was the same in the U.S even past the 90's. Religion was in fact on a slight decline. Until 9/11 there was a 50% increase in church activity. The forgetfulness of God is where it starts and from there can we see the decline in society in all respects of morality. Why is Europe forgetting God?

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Perhaps Europe has forgotten God because they feel they no longer need him?

Catastrophies bring a consciousness about things that people forget about when things are going well.  The frailty of human life and the bonds of family.  Its a reality check that unfortunately often humans need.  It might not have impressed you, it might not have impressed God. 

Surely those that are still going back to church after 5 years, that's a wonderful thing.  The women and men who have searched for answers and found God, surely that's a good thing. 

Humans are by nature arrogant and greedy.  We are selfish and things that get in the way of our personal gratification are often unwanted and inconvenient. 

The Christian and Muslim faiths teach charity, love, piety and sacrifice.  These concepts fly in the face of the materialistic western societies of the US and Europe. 

And as far as sexuality goes, don't get my wrong.  Many of my friends from college were homosexual or bisexual.  I am still friends with many of them.  Its love the person, not the sin.  I love them very much and my heart aches at times for them and their trials.  But, I have to sit back and say that I have no illusions to the fact it is still wrong.

So, why do you think Europeans are forgetting God????

I know my church is growing quickly in Europe, we have several temples in construction currently.  Which means that membership levels have risen to require them.  I also know Islam is growing strong in many European countries.  So why the dual trends???

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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

So, why do you think Europeans are forgetting God????

I know my church is growing quickly in Europe, we have several temples in construction currently.  Which means that membership levels have risen to require them.  I also know Islam is growing strong in many European countries.  So why the dual trends???

Christianity, with all that jibberish about the son of God and blood sacrifice (all taken from Roman pagansim), is too lame for people to buy in the 21st century. I don't think people are turning away from God, just from all that nonsense. 

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You have to ask yourself if Allah, God is a loving Allah, God, the Creator why does he need a blood sacrifice in the first place??????

People may animalistically want someone to die of vengence but that is about it.

LIfe is to be lived and lived well within the Realms of the Kingdom of Allah, God, The Creator I know.

Besides if you truelly understood just how many lives have really been sacrificed then maybe everyone would change their tune.

Probably some one trillion since the beginning of time......

Does their sacrifice not count for something?

I say it does and I say they are all sons and daughters of Allah, God, the Creator none is exempt for He Fashions everything.

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Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8
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Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:


I say they are all sons and daughters of Allah, God, the Creator none is exempt for He Fashions everything.


Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi




please stop spreading ur pagan belief
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