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    Posted: 24 June 2015 at 2:37am
Where is Part 1?

Amazingly the moon is back with it's disappearing act. I think it is more than coincidence that this happens at the time of Ramadan.

Monday 22 June 2015

11:00 PM

I was sitting at the same location as last year and the moon was at a strange location. It was further out at sea and further South than when it disappeared last year.

After about five minutes of watching the moon, it suddenly began to change colour. It was as if it was a dried old date stalk (as described in the Qur'an). Then within three to four minutes it completely disappeared.

Tuesday 23 June 2015

11:30 PM

Again I was at the same location and noticed that the moon was slightly higher in the horizon than the previous night. After about ten minutes the moon began to change colour as per the previous night. However, there was a remarkable difference now. A black veil or what looked liked a black curtain began to envelope the moon starting at the middle. Then it covered the bottom part, about ten percent of the top was still visible, then the moon completely disappeared.

I stayed at the same spot and after about ten to fifteen minutes the bottom part was revealed slightly to show that the moon was still there. However the sky was normal meaning that there was no black spot or visible sign that there was anything there.

I think these signs are being shown so that I can convey this message on this forum for non believers and those with an atom's weight if faith can believe.

I think Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala is inviting especially atheists on this forum to be believers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2015 at 8:28am
Part 1 is here.  I just skimmed through it, and I think it is possibly the most interesting and worthwhile discussion I have had on this forum.  Thank you for that, Abu Loren. Smile

As I said in the previous discussion, what you're seeing is undoubtedly caused either by clouds or by pollution of some kind.  There is nothing remarkable about the moon being partially or totally obscured.  I've seen it many times myself.

I do find it interesting that you seem to notice it particularly during Ramadan, however.  (The previous discussion also took place during Ramadan.)  Do you spend more time than usual during Ramadan outside at night, looking at the moon?
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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Part 1 is here. I just skimmed through it, and I think it is possibly the most interesting and worthwhile discussion I have had on this forum. Thank you for that, Abu Loren. [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />As I said in the previous discussion, what you're seeing is undoubtedly caused either by clouds or by pollution of some kind. There is nothing remarkable about the moon being partially or totally obscured. I've seen it many times myself.I do find it interesting that you seem to notice it particularly during Ramadan, however. (The previous discussion also took place during Ramadan.) Do you spend more time than usual during Ramadan outside at night, looking at the moon?


I usually sit outside after Isha prayer at night and after having dinner. I interchange between the city centre and the Corniche (seaside).

Anyway, I tent to look up most of the time (unlike any other normal human being) and notice the airplanes, the clouds and the moon etc. On 'normal' days the moon is 'normal' meaning that there is nothing to write home about. However these disappearances of the moon during Ramadan is not 'normal' in any sense of the word.

To begin with, the moon visibly changes colour or rather it loses it light and becomes dim. The first night I noticed this the moon just disappeared after this dimness. However on the second night, there was a black veil or something like a curtain which enveloped the moon. The the top part remained visible for about five to ten minutes, then it disappeared. Another strange thing was that part of the lower half of the moon became visible after about ten minutes and the whole moon disappeared.

There were many people out and about at the location I mentioned. I did not approach anybody because of language barriers and because they would think that I'm nuts.

I don't know if the only witness to this is just me. If it is then I think it is to convey this message to non believers on this forum and for them to just believe.
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But I do believe.  I believe in clouds.  And air pollution.
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Wednesday 24 June 2015

11:45 PM

The moon looks normal and bright. However it is a few degrees north than the previous two nights.

12:05 AM

The moon has shifted a few degrees south within only a few minutes. Once again it has lost it's light and become dim. Then completely disappeared.

See the pics.

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Friday 26 June 2015

I was late and got to the spot around 12:20 AM. To my surprise the moon was there and looked normal, meaning that it has it's brightness.

However, after about 10 to 15 minutes the brightness of the moon became dim. It was as if the moon was waiting for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2015 at 1:10am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Part 1 is here.  I just skimmed through it, and I think it is possibly the most interesting and worthwhile discussion I have had on this forum.  Thank you for that, Abu Loren. [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />As I said in the previous discussion, what you're seeing is undoubtedly caused either by clouds or by pollution of some kind.  There is nothing remarkable about the moon being partially or totally obscured.  I've seen it many times myself.I do find it interesting that you seem to notice it particularly during Ramadan, however.  (The previous discussion also took place during Ramadan.)  Do you spend more time than usual during Ramadan outside at night, looking at the moon?


I usually sit outside after Isha prayer at night and after having dinner. I interchange between the city centre and the Corniche (seaside).

Anyway, I tent to look up most of the time (unlike any other normal human being) and notice the airplanes, the clouds and the moon etc. On 'normal' days the moon is 'normal' meaning that there is nothing to write home about. However these disappearances of the moon during Ramadan is not 'normal' in any sense of the word.

To begin with, the moon visibly changes colour or rather it loses it light and becomes dim. The first night I noticed this the moon just disappeared after this dimness. However on the second night, there was a black veil or something like a curtain which enveloped the moon. The the top part remained visible for about five to ten minutes, then it disappeared. Another strange thing was that part of the lower half of the moon became visible after about ten minutes and the whole moon disappeared.

There were many people out and about at the location I mentioned. I did not approach anybody because of language barriers and because they would think that I'm nuts.

I don't know if the only witness to this is just me. If it is then I think it is to convey this message to non believers on this forum and for them to just believe.


Clouds.

Do you think it might be worth you doing a little astronomy? You could buy a book on it and a reasonably cheap set of binoculars to get started. I think you will enjoy finding out about the universe.

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Saturday 27 June 2015

11:00 - 12:30 AM

The moon was at a completely different spot. Nothing else happened, the moon only moved a few degrees to the South.

http://postimg.org/image/5czhma6qx/47abea14/

http://postimg.org/image/w35rrigfd/a54d4e35/

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