Jinns are not fiction

The Saint wrote: Abu says that the Moon is below the clouds. He has not presented any evidence for this. I know nothing about what Abu said. When I and Ron point this out you say that it is fine to do so. You say Jinns are real and not fiction. You have not presented any evidence for this. There is no evidence that I know of. But because a book that I have absolute faith in says they exist I believe it. When I and Ron point this out you call us rude. And then make veiled threats. No, that is not correct. It amounts to a lie. I call you all rude when you try to poke fun at God Almighty or His revelation or His prophets. I will continue to point out that Jinnis are not real just like the tooth fairy is not real. Unlucky. You are most welcome to believe and say what you fancy but that will not alter the truth. That Jinns exist.

If you have a read on either of the Monn threads or any of Abu other posts you will get the picture.

You say you believe in Jinnis but accept that there is no evidence beyond a book you say you believe in.

Abu has said that the moon travels below the clouds and the the earth is flat etc.

You then say that I am out of order for pointing uot that your ideas and Abu's are of equal validity. That is stuff you believe without any evidence and that there is evidence to the contrary if you would look at it.

Then you threaten us with retalitation.

Grow up or find somewhere else to live.

The Saint wrote: You are guilty of one of the gravest sins on earth. Therefore, you should expect adverse comments.

My "sins" are not against you.  They are against your allegedly omnipotent God, who certainly doesn't need anybody else to speak or act for him.  I'm sure he can take care of himself.

Rules have already been made. We are told to follow those by God Almighty. Man made rules, as long as they do not conflict with divine rules are acceptable but the moment your pluralistic society rules defy divine rules they will be rejected.

I'm sorry, but you have it backwards.  If you can convince a majority of your fellow citizens that you have God's rulebook, then they can adopt those rules.  But in a pluralistic society, the majority decides, and their rules take precedence over the views of any religious minority.  Always.  That's the only system that makes sense.  Anything else leads to chaos.

It is an unsupported premise in your mind. But it is a fact that I am convinced about.

Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?  Because there is absolutely no point in presenting me with an argument that begins with an unsupported premise.  Just because you are convinced about it, that doesn't make it a fact -- and it doesn't lend support to the premise.

Tim the plumber wrote: If you have a read on either of the Monn threads or any of Abu other posts you will get the picture.You say you believe in Jinnis but accept that there is no evidence beyond a book you say you believe in. Abu has said that the moon travels below the clouds and the the earth is flat etc. You then say that I am out of order for pointing uot that your ideas and Abu's are of equal validity. That is stuff you believe without any evidence and that there is evidence to the contrary if you would look at it. Then you threaten us with retalitation. Grow up or find somewhere else to live.

How in hell did you equate a worldly belief into a religious one?

As far as I'm aware the existence of Jins has nothing to do with the Moon or clouds or even the Earth.

From my point of view it's fine that you do not believe in spiritual things, but as a Muslim I believe what my Creator has told me, so yes I believe in Jinns and Angels.
Amazingly both are assigned to human beings, believe it or not what you do are a consequence of their influence in your lives.

Well, I have tried to take on these Jinnis. No show!

Take on these jinnies? LOL, I sincerely advise you, you should not. It may be very hazardous for you, if they do decide to take you on!

I have done what you said, shouting into the night, and no jinnis showed up. Are they all busy?

I am sure they are ignoring your childish antics. In any case they are not bound to answer your calls. Beware of the time, though. When they decide to respond to you.