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    Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:14am

I see that Yusuf mentions in another place that the Yusuf Ali translation of the Qur'an has been found to have a few errors or at least not so correct passages in it.

I was wondering which english translation of the meaning of the Qur'an do the forum members recommend?  I have already read translations by the following:

Arthur J. Arberrry, N.J.Dawood (not very good), Hashim Amir-Ali, Rashad Khalifa (this guy is obsessed with numerology!), Muhammad Asad, Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali & Muhammad Muhsin Khan (extremely anti-Jewish), and Abdulla Yusuf Ali.

I like Muhammad Asad's translation and commentary, they are easy to understand.

Anyway, there are so many translations out there.  Any suggestions on which are perhaps more accurate than others?

Peace, ummziba.

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Originally posted by ummziba ummziba wrote:

Anyway, there are so many translations out there.  Any suggestions on which are perhaps more accurate than others?

I have practiced some disciplines that have opened up worlds of deeper consciousness to me. I cannot tell you by words. It can only be experienced through hard trials.

The Holy Quran says there are sign in the Heavens and the Earth for those who mind. Whole societies revolve around "Signs and Symbols" The deeper esoteric meanings are kept secret and require a strong oath of one's life before they are given. Some people use the deeper aspects of signs and symbols to become great in the land. Others use them to free the oppressed.

Various "translations" are attempts to help others see what Allah has placed before us to nurture our development towards our highest self. Sometimes, there are the "wickly wise", who seek to lead men astray by publishing their own "interpretations" of Allah's revelations. I have learned that there are signs and symbols which manifest inside of us as well. Learning to read the Quran can teach you how to read signs in Nature, internally and externally. When you are able to do that, you can learn to master the self.

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Yes, I have been working at learning Arabic.  However, it is a very difficult task for me as I have a short term memory problem.  So, all the things I learned yesterday are pretty much gone today, and so it goes...

So, I would like to know what is or are the best of the english translations.  Thank you.

Peace, ummziba.

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Originally posted by blond blond wrote:

Learning to read the Quran can teach you how to read signs in Nature, internally and externally. When you are able to do that, you can learn to master the self.

The qu'ran is not the only way

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Assalamu alaikum,

I have not had a chance to read it but many are saying that this new translation is the most accurate to date:

http://www.masud.co.uk/shopping/cleary_quran.htm

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Originally posted by blond blond wrote:

Originally posted by ummziba ummziba wrote:

Anyway, there are so many translations out there.  Any suggestions on which are perhaps more accurate than others?

I have practiced some disciplines that have opened up worlds of deeper consciousness to me. I cannot tell you by words. It can only be experienced through hard trials.

The Holy Quran says there are sign in the Heavens and the Earth for those who mind. Whole societies revolve around "Signs and Symbols" The deeper esoteric meanings are kept secret and require a strong oath of one's life before they are given. Some people use the deeper aspects of signs and symbols to become great in the land. Others use them to free the oppressed.

Various "translations" are attempts to help others see what Allah has placed before us to nurture our development towards our highest self. Sometimes, there are the "wickly wise", who seek to lead men astray by publishing their own "interpretations" of Allah's revelations. I have learned that there are signs and symbols which manifest inside of us as well. Learning to read the Quran can teach you how to read signs in Nature, internally and externally. When you are able to do that, you can learn to master the self.

 

Assalaamu Alaikum

 

 

 

Subhna Allah! I here what you are saying blond, Al-Hamdulilah

 

You are right brother, I have also learned a lot of knowledge through ‘hard trials’, knowledge that is impossible for someone living in a life of luxury to be able to attain (not that ‘they’ would see it that way).

 

You mention mastering the self, I can relate to what you say, I found that to master myself truly (ie not just my own desires), I had to in fact master the society I lived in, & as I mentioned in one of the other posts, this meant that I stumbled across the ability to ‘work sorcery’.

 

I was wondering brother, did you study any religion before you reverted to Islam, or were your blessings purely attained through trial?   

 

Wasalaam

 

nadir 

 

 

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

"Those who strive hard in Us, We shall most surely guide them in our Ways" (29:69)

there is also a hadith which says Allah surrounds all things with knowledge.


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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by blond blond wrote:

Learning to read the Quran can teach you how to read signs in Nature, internally and externally. When you are able to do that, you can learn to master the self.

The qu'ran is not the only way

 You are right it is not the only way;also Allah says in Qur'an.The problem is that it is the way goes to His Consent;the way should be;the way has worth;the way makes happy and it is the way of objectivity inside the person's views...take care Surah Al Fatiha:

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YUSUFALI: In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

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YUSUFALI: Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;

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YUSUFALI: Most Gracious, Most Merciful;

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YUSUFALI: Master of the Day of Judgment.

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YUSUFALI: Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.

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YUSUFALI: Show us the straight way,

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YUSUFALI: The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.

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