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IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICENT THE MERCIFUL

All Praises are for Allah (S) the Creator and Sustainer. I seek his blessing on our noble Prophet Muhammad (S).

Peace unto all!

      We were told by Allah (S) to invite all mankind to his Deen (religion, Way of life) when he said:

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (Q. 16:125)

He further said:

We have not sent thee but as a universal Messenger to all mankind�but most of mankind know not.� (Qur. 34:28). 

  Allah (S) is telling us, most of mankind does not recognize Muhammad (S) as a Prophet, Why? Because they are not interesting to know and the Devil is keeping them busy with this world. Our Job is to inform them, we have to convey the message. He Allah (S) says in the Quran:

Those who fallow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mention in their own (Scriptures), In the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q. 7:157).

  He is telling us, look this man Muhammad (S), he was illiterate and it is He Allah (S) who sent him as a Prophet, which was foretold, and prophecy in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). So go and look it up and inform the Israelites and those who call themselves Christians, who claimed to have following the Messiah (S). He said:

And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers of vanity have doubted. (Q. 29:48)

Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in power. (Q. 53:3-5)

 

JESUS (S) MISSION AND PURPOSES:

He said: �I must preach KINGDOM OF GOD to the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent" (Luke 4:43 NKJV)

He told them: �... saying, the time is fulfilled, and the KINGDOM OF GOD is at hand: repent ye, and believe the GOSPEL (GOOD NEWS)�. (Mark 1:1)

The Kingdom of God was so important he thought his followers to pray for when it would have come and the coming of it the Most High name will sanctify and His will would establish on earth.

He said: �After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Allah be thy name.10Thy KINGDOM COME, Islam will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.� (Matthew 6:9-10)

And it is written in Malachi 1:11: �For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same �MY NAME SHALL BE GREAT AMONG THE GENTILES�; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.� (Malachi 1:11)

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WHAT TO FIND INSIDE CONTENTS


Chapter 1

ISLAM IS NOT A NEW RELIGION; IT IS THE RELIGION OF ALL THE PROPHETS OF THE PAST������.....6

BELIEVE IN THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD ALLAH��������������������..�����.��7

Chapter 2

JESUS (S) WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND MUHAMMAD (S) SENT TO ALL NATION����������������������..��������������������...��.10

Chapter 3

WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HOW IT WOULD COME�������������..�������19

THE WORD �BIBLE� AND ITS DEFINITION...����.������������������������������.���.�.��..�.19

THE WORD �GOSPEL� AND THE MEANING��������������������������������������..���..�.�.20

WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HOW IT WILL COME��������������������...�24

SALVATION AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD COMES WHEN THE MAN CHILD WHO WAS TO RULE ALL NATIONS����������������������������������������..����.28

IS JESUS (S) COME IN GOD�S NAME ����������������������������.����.30

JESUS (S) ORIGINAL NAME�������������������������������.�����.36

HE SHALL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH������������������������������40

THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND THE DEVIL�S INFILTRATION��������������..�����.��..42

Chapter 4

REVELATION 12: THE UNIVERSAL PROPHET AND THE COMING OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD������...50

Chapter 5

 REVELATION 10: COMFORTER SHALL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH�����.���������60

REVELATION 14: COMING OF THE UNIVERSAL BOOK����������������.�.������..60

Chapter 6

ISAIAH 29: THE PROPHET THAT RECEIVES THE SEAL BOOK�����������������.����66

THE KINGDOM OF GOD SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE JEWS���������������..��..74

THE SEALING OF THE BOOK AND THE OPENING OF THE SEAL BOOK������������.�..��.�75

 

Chapter 7

WHO IS THE COMFORTER?..................................................................................................................................................77

THE CONDITION BEFORE THE COMFORTER COMES������������������.���...�..�..79

HOW WILL THIS COMFORTER ABIDE WITH US FOREVER? JESUS (S) TELLS US����.������...��81

THE DISCIPLES KNEW OF HIM����������������������.���������.�.�.�81

CONFECTIONED OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH�����������������������������.82

THE COMFORTER WILL GLORIFY JESUS (S)��������������������������������������.��84

JESUS (S) BELIEVE IN THE ONE TRUE GOD ALLAH (S)��������������������..��������������.86

Chapter 8

ISAIAH 42: COMFORTER BRINGING JUDGMENTS TO THE GENTILE����������������.��90

 

HABAKKUK 3:1-3: THE HOLY ONE FROM MT. PARAN������������������������..94

Chapter 9

MUHAMMAD IN ISAIAH 28������������������������������������..98

Chapter10

WHO IS THE PROPHET LIKE MOSES (S) (REVISED)�������������..������������106

HIS NAME WILL BE GREAT AMONG THE GENTILE�������������������������.115

JESUS (S) TELLS CHRISTIANS HOW TO RECOGNIZE GOD�S NAME������������������.117

Chapter 11

WHERE THE CHURCH IS AND WHO IS JESUS (S) SAID HE IS������������...��������..118

Chapter 12

ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN AND NOT THE SON OF MAN������������.����������127

JESUS (S) WAS A FAITHFUL WITNESS BACK THERE IN THE BEGINNING AND WHO IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA?:��������������������������������������������129

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CHAPTER 1

ISLAM IS NOT A NEW RELIGION; IT IS THE RELIGION OF ALL THE PROPHETS OF THE PAST.

In Islam Muslims were thought that Islam is the first and only religion recognize by Allah (S) (God Almighty). Why Islam? It is because Islam is an Arabic word...when translated to English would mean: �peace and complete submission to the will of God Almighty�; in other words: peace acquired by total submission to the will of God Almighty.

If we go back to the origin of man, the first man Adam (S) as the scriptures established, we would recognize that he was order by God Almighty to �submit to His will� in order to received help and guidance, thus, he believed in �submitting to God�s will� which when translates in to Arabic would be �ISLAM�; so Islam was there from the very beginning of Adam (S). The Qur�an is just the last message to all mankind [The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)�But if you deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. (Q. 3:19)]. It is God Almighty who chooses the name �ISLAM� for his religion. (This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. (Q. 5:3)

All prophets believe in the �submission to God�s will (Islam). For example: Jesus (S) preached Islam. He said:

 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. (John5: 30).

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21-22)

According to those two verse Jesus (s) call God his Father. So I will clarifies who is his father from what is written in John 20:16-17, he Jesus (S) said:

 

��Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and my God, and your God.� (John 20:16-17 AKJV)

 

According to him, his Father is �OUR GOD and HIS GOD; He has a GOD, He said: �MY GOD AND YOUR GOD�. So the verses should read as follows:

 

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of my God which hath sent me. (John5: 30).

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my God which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21-22)

 

In others words, he submit to the will of his God and he preached �submission to will of his God which when translate to Arabic would mean �Islam�. He even prophesies the coming of �Islam�. He said:

 �After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.�(Matthew 6:9 )

Coming of God Almighty kingdom on earth �His� will� shall be done on earth. What is the will? God�s will is his divine law. The coming Kingdom is a message from God for all nations. He said: Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.� As we can see that the ticket to Heaven has a �condition� and that is, we have to �do the will of the Father� In other words, we have to be obedience to God Law, what he was preaching is �Submission to the will of God� (Thy will be done on earth) which when translate in Arabic is �Islam� will be done on earth. As I have said, all Prophets preached �submission to the will of God� (Islam). Allah (s) informs us in the Noble Qur�an.

The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)�But if you deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. (Q. 3:19)

To every people did We appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they might celebrate the name of Allah over the sustenance He gave them from animals (fit for food). But your god is One God: submit then your wills to Him (in Islam): and give thou the good news to those who humble themselves,  (Qur. 22:34)

Those Prophets was sent to their own nation respectively according to their own language.

�For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).� (Qur.16: 36); and �We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom�.� (Qur. 14:4)

For example Jesus (S) was sent to the Children of Israel:

�But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.�  (Matthew 15: 24); These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.(Matthew 10:5-6)

Muhammad (S) on the other hand was sent as a universal Messenger to all mankind, Allah (S) mentioned in Qur�an:

We have not sent thee but as a (universal messenger) to all mankind�but most of mankind knew not�. (Q. 34:28)

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BELIEVE IN THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD ALLAH

We all came from the first man and woman, Adam and Eve, then a nation, then many nations and tribe. Revelation was sent to mankind since the beginning for guidance and Allah (S) mentioned, those people did not differ among themselves except through selfish contumacy and Allah (S) honored the most righteous among the mankind.

�O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).  (Qur. 49:13)

Mankind was one single nation, and Allah sent Messengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them He sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in matters wherein they differed; but the people of the Book, after the clear Signs came to them, did not differ among themselves, except through selfish contumacy. Allah by His Grace Guided the believers to the Truth, concerning that wherein they differed. For Allah guided whom He will to a path that is straight.� (Qur. 2:213)

The noble call to people of the book:

Say: "O people of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). (Qur. 3:64)

Jesus (s) thought The First commandment

�And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: V.30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.� (Mark 12:29-30)

From the book of Exodus 20:4-5

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:  5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God (Exodus 20:4-5)

Jesus thought the way to Eternal Life in his final message, he looks up to the Heaven and gives thanks to God Almighty for affording him to give eternal life to all who God Almighty has chosen, and that is to believe in the one true God and Jesus the Messiah whom He has sent.

�1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.(John 17:1-2)

This is what he said:

3And this is life eternal, that they (the disciples or who call themselves Christian) might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou (the only true God) hast sent.� (John 17:3-4); And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

That is the declaration of faith at the time of Jesus (S), in other words, is to believe in no other deity except the one true God Allah (S) and Jesus (S) is the messenger of Allah (S) and you will received ETERNAL LIFE. Same declaration Muslims make except that at the end they say, Muhammad (S) is the messenger of Allah (S). That is to say: �I testify that there is no other deity except Allah (S) and I testify that Muhammad (S) is the messenger of Allah (S).�

Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sin than this: one who join other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the right) (Q .4:116)

DEATH PENELTY FOR NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE JEWS

The God of the Israelites declared death penalty in Deuteronomy 13:6-9 and in Chronicles 15:13, if anyone even your own brother or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend encourage you to secretly worship other deity than the God of Israel he or she must put to death.

"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)

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CHAPTER 2

JESUS (S) WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD (S) TO THE ALL NATIONS.

Who Jesus (s) was sent? To answer that question with clarity, let look let see what Jesus has to say about it. Firstly, now where in the writings it mentioned Jesus (S) claimed he was sent to the Gentiles but in Mark 16:15 mentioned he sends his disciples to preach the Gospel to all creatures (Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creatures. Mark 16:15). The question is what Gospel he was talking about? It was �Good News of the coming of God�s kingdom on earth which is another message to come�. That doesn�t in anyway conforms that he was sent to all creatures; what it did, it conforms, he sent his disciples to preach Good News of the coming of the coming of God�s kingdom on earth which is another message to come.

 

This is what he said:

 

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. (Luke 19:10)

 

He said: �For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. (Matt. 18:11)

 

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matt. 15:24)

 

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 10:5-6)

 �He came unto his own, and his own received him not.� (John 1:11)

 

Quran conforms:

 

And Allah will teach him (Jesus) the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel, And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message)� (Qur. 3:48-49)

 

Jesus (s) mission to the children of Israel was to fulfill the laws for them and inform them of the coming kingdom which is a new law to come, it is in Matthew 5:18-19 and 10:5:

He said: �For verily I say unto you (Israelites), Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.� "Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven..."(Matthew 5:18-19)

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand.� (Matthew 10:5-6)

Quran conforms:

"'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me. (3:50))

And Allah will teach him (Jesus) the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel, And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message)� (Qur. 3:48-49)

So, when he send his disciples out into the world was not to preach the Law to them the law was for the Israelites, he send them to preach the Gospel.

What �Gospel� he was talking about, is the bible? No, the bible is a collection of books. The Gospel he was he was instructing them about was to go and inform the world of the �Good News of the coming of the Kingdom of God which is another message to come.

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches. (Matthew 6:31-32)

The �grain of mustard seed� is a �message, the word of God to come� [Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God�. (Luke 8:11)], and the �man� is the one who will deliver that message. It is mentioned in Revelation 12 and 14; and the coming of that �message� is the coming of God�s Kingdom on earth. In the book of Revelation Chapter12 its mentioned the coming of a �man child� who would have rule all nations with a rod of iron and at his arrival �then� Salvation and the Kingdom of God will come; God�s Law (his will) shall establish on earth, meaning, the message will be a universal one. Revelation 14 conforms that. And in Luke 21 he told them to look for the sign for it coming, it was yet to come.

�And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron�now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God� (Rev. 12:5-10.)�

That man child that mention there in revelation Jesus (S) also spoke of him in John 3:13 (KJV), he call him the �son of man�.

��and no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is �in� heaven.� John 3: 13 (kjv)

  Jesus (S) was the Son of man �ON� earth and he spoke about �another� Son of man which is �IN� heaven and he was described as �another comforter� John 14; 16 (see Ch. 5) who will guide mankind into �all the truth� John 16:12-13, the disciples knew of him it mentioned in 1John. 4:1

�Beloved, believes not every spirit, but tries the spirits whether they are of god because many false prophets are gone out into the world.� (1John .4:1)  

I�ll break it down a little for my Christian�s friends. It read: �believe not every spirit�. How do we �believe�? We cannot believe if we do not listen and heard the spirit, correct? We have to listen and hear the spirit to believe. Now, the verse continues: �but try the spirits whether they are of God� How do we try the Spirit? By questioning him, and that is not my opinion, V.2 conforms it: �2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:�

The Spirit has to �confess� and if he �confesses� that would mean we have to listen to him. Now, let us go back to V.1 it says: �because many false prophets are gone out into the world.�

Why �gone out into the world�? Because, �into the world� you have to go and look! And what you have to look for? It says: �Because many false prophets are gone out.� The opposite of false prophet is what? True Prophet!!!

 John is saying, go out into the world and look for a true prophet with the true spirit. And how do we know him? V.2 Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God. The prophet with the true spirit will have to confess that Jesus (s) come in flesh, so the Comforter Jesus (S) spoke of is a �Prophet� to come, he was the Prophet like Moses (S) prophecy in Deuteronomy 18:18.

In the New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfillment of the prophecy of 'ONE LIKE MOSES', refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus (S) claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquirer as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:

"...Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not...then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."(Matthew 17:11-13)

According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to swallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "and this is the record of john,"(the Baptist) "when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, who art thou? And he confessed and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ." (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "and they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not." (Here John the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is "Elias" and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the TWO (Jesus or John. God forbid!), is definitely not speaking the TRUTH! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophet s: "verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist... (Matthew11: 11).

We Muslims know John the Baptist as Hazrut YAHYAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him). We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Hazrut ISAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him) is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Muslims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "sacred scriptures abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the "dark sayings of Jesus". We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite- "art thou that prophet? and he answered, no."(John 1:21)

Three Questions!

Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist and to which he gave three emphatic "NO'S" as answers. To recapitulate: -

1)    ART THOU THE CHRIST?

2)     ART THOU ELIAS?

3)     ART THOU THAT PROPHET?

But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had T-H-R-E-E separate prophecies in their minds when they were interrogating John the Baptist, let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following:

"AND THEY ASKED HIM, AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHEY BAPTIZEST THOU THEN, IF THOU BE

a)    NOT THAT CHRIST,

b)     NOR ELIAS,

c)    NEITHER THAT PROPHET?"
(John 1:25)

The Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST; two, the coming of ELIAS; and three, the coming of THAT PROPHET.

As you can see, only two prophesies was fulfilled: Elias, whom Jesus (S) says, is John de Baptist and Jesus, (S) who is the Christ (�Messiah�, which word is translated as �Christ�). They were still waiting for �That Prophet� the prophet like Moses (S).

The Bible says: �He [Jesus (S)] came unto his own (Jews) and his own received him not.� (John.1:11)

The Jews rejected Jesus (S) and he told them:

�Jesus said unto them (Jews), Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the builders reject the same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord�s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore say I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you (The Jews), and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken: but whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.� (Matt. 21:42-44)

The stone Jesus (S) spoke of was a �message�. If you reject Jesus (S) you automatically reject his �message� of the coming kingdom of God; and that message which is the coming kingdom of God would be taken away from the Jews and given to another nation, and it would bare fruits and be �MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES�, and no other message would be able destroy it and where ever the message establish it will prevail over all other message (man-made law). Sure Jesus (S) is not the stone because he is not marvelous in our eyes.

  The nation that fulfilled that is no other than Ishmaelite Abraham�s (S) seeds; the God of Abraham�s promise to bless Abraham�s son Ishmael and make him a Great nation. It mentioned in Genesis 17: 20.

�And as for Ishmael�Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and multiply him exceedingly�and I will make a GREAT NATION.� (Genesis 17:20)

That prophecy was fulfilled with the arrival of Muhammad (S) who also fulfilled the Prophet like Moses (S) whom the Jews were waiting for, and according to Jesus (S).



Jesus (s) said: ��BY THE FRUIT YE SHALL KNEW THEM.� (Matt.7: 20) AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES.

And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. (Luke 13:29)


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In Isaiah 42, it was Prophecy in details, it has to do with a prophecy of Almighty God�s servant whom He will send to the Gentile (entire whole) with his new law or I should say His new universal criterion of Judgment between right and wrong. This servant has to come from Ishmael�s descendant true Kedar [Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the village that Kedar doth inhabit�(Isaiah. 42:11); And these are the names of the son Ishmael, by their names according to their generations: the first born of Ishmael, Nebajoth�and Kedar...� (Genesis 25:13)].

 

 However, all Christian�s Scholars agreed that this prophecy in Isaiah 42 is of Jesus (S) and ignoring the fact that Isaiah describe him as �God�s Servant and Messenger�: �Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentile.� (Isaiah. 42:1), this �Servant� was described as a �messenger� according to Isaiah 42: 18 -19: Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see. Who is blind, but my servant? Or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? Who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord�s servant? (Isaiah. 42:18-19); and according to them Jesus (S) is God or son of God. What is more questionable is this Servant and Messenger will bring �Judgment to the Gentiles� and on the other hand Jesus (S) said the comforter will reprove the world (Gentiles) of judgment: �And when he (the Comforter) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment.� (John. 16:8). If the Comforter will reprove the world (Gentile) of Judgment then the Comforter is a person according to Isaiah 42:1.

 

All prophets after Jacob (S) mentioned in the Bible came for the Israelites not Gentiles. This includes Jesus (S) (Matt. 15:21-26, Matt. 10:5-6) and many more. And Jesus (S) did not stay on earth long enough to bring judgment to the Gentile. But Muhammad (S) he brought message which is the Criterion of Judgment between right and wrong to the Gentiles.

 

It mentioned in the Qur�an:

 

�Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong, i.e. the Qur�an) to his slave [Muhammad (pbuh)] that he may be a Warner to the �Alamin (mankind and jinn).� (Qur. 25:1)

 

 How would the comforter reprove the world of Judgment? He would reprove the world of judgment when the everlasting Good News would have come. Revelation 14: 6-7 mentioned the coming of the universal Book of judgment:

 

�And I saw another angel fly in the mid of Heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nations, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying... fear God and give glory to him for judgment is come.� (Rev. 14:6-7)

That is the future tense! The book of Revelation Ch. 14: 6-7 which is a part of the Collection of books (The Bible), which is already here; it�s mentioned of an �angel coming from heaven� with the everlasting gospel for all nations. The same Greek word �Euaggelizo� which translates as Gospel, which is the Good News, it mentioned also in revelation 14. The NWT got correct translation:

6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: �FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.� (Rev.14: 6-7 NWT)

Note: This everlasting good news was coming from Heaving, an angel was bringing it from Heaven, and it was describe as a �Judgment� to �preach� to all nations. That Judgment was the criterion between rights and wrong, that Judgment there is the Law (His will) to preach unto them that dwell on earth (all nations). What Jesus (S) said? He said: Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be don on earth!�

The Qur�an makes that claimed in ch.26: 192-196.It mentioned:

�Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) to His Servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures.� (Qur. 25:1)

A book, whereof the verses are explained in detail-A Qur�an in Arabic, for people who understand-Giving Good News and admonition: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not. (Qur. 41:3-4)

�Thus have We revealed it (the Qur�an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic� (Qur. 13:37)

Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and Judgment (Between right and wrong). (Qur. 2:185)

 

That is exactly what Isaiah prophecy, that the Judgment to the Gentiles is the law. It mentioned:

3-A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax he shall he not quench: he shall bring forth Judgment unto truth. 4- He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for His LAW. (Isaiah. 42:3-4)

 

For the LAW was given by Moses� (John 1:17)

 

  Moses (S) was a Law Giver, and then come another lawgiver, the Comforter: �He shall reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment.� (John 16:8). Jesus (S) did not set Judgment on the earth he said the Comforter will in John 16:8; and Muhammad (S) he establishes a state and ruled with his law that given by God Almighty.  Therefore he set Judgment in the earth and he did not fail and he was not discouraged, he is the universal lawgiver to the Gentiles.

 

 Isaiah 42:9 clearly stated:

 

�Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you.�(Isaiah 42:9) 

 

The former things are the old law and have to replace with new law (the Islamic law),

 

 

Also in Isaiah 49: 10 it mentioned of the �scepter and law giver� will remove from Judah, it was remove at the time of Muhammad (S); unto him shall the gathering of the people be:

 

The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shi-loh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people.� (Isaiah. 49:10)  

    Where is the Gathering of the people? Mecca!  

 

      The Prophet of Islam was prophesied in yet another prophesies in Isaiah 28. Christian�s commentators claimed that Jesus (S) fulfilled this prophesy also which is not true. A closer look revealed that when �The Mighty Strong one� comes, he would speak to the Israelite in another tongue.

Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty water overflowing, shall cast down to the earth with the hand.� (Isaiah 28:2) Water represents people: The water, which thou sawest, �are peoples, and multitude, and tongues. (Rev. 17:15)

 So God Almighty is saying, He will send a Mighty Strong One as a destroying storm, with Mighty peoples, and multitude, and tongues, and he would speak to the Israelites in �another tongue�.  

   For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lip another tongue will he speak to this people (Isaiah 28:7-9)

 God himself will teach him (V.26), at that time the Jewish people would be in a state of evilness and corruptions (V.10-11); in verse 17 he will bring judgment (17Judgments also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet�) and the Qur�an conforms that: �Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) to His Servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures.� (Qur. 25:1); and In verse 26 he will establish the corner stone which Jesus (S) spoke of in Matthew 21:42-43 when he said: �� Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the builders reject the same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord�s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore say I unto you the kingdom of God shall taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.� That nation is the Ishmaelite the seed of Abraham!

 

      What I have established there is suffice for any lay men to comprehend, and make no mistake, the people in authority would not inform you of that, you were not suppooose to know that, because they want to enslave the worlds with their man made laws instead of informing you of the coming kingdom of God which is the universal laws mankind suppose to live by. Jesus (s) thought his followers to pray for when it will come and the coming of it, the Most High name will sanctify and God�s will would be done on earth Matt. 6:9-10�.

�After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.�(Matthew 6:9 )

Coming of God Almighty kingdom on earth �His� will� shall be done on earth. What is the will? God�s will is his divine law. The coming Kingdom is a message from God for all nations. He said: Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.� As we can see that the ticket to Heaven has a �condition� and that is, we have to �do the will of the Father� In other words, we have to be obedience to God Law according to Jesus (S)

What Jesus (S) was preaching is �Submission to the will of God� (Thy will be done on earth) which when translate in Arabic is �Islam� will be done on earth.

Jesus (S) himself preached Islam. He said:

 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. (John   5:30)

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21-22)

According to those two verse Jesus (s) call God his Father. So I will clarifies who is his father from what is written in John 20:16-17, he Jesus (S) said:

 

��Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and my God, and your God.� (John 20:16-17 AKJV)

 

According to him, his Father is �OUR GOD and HIS GOD; He has a GOD, He said: �MY GOD AND YOUR GOD�. So the verses should read as follows:

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of my God which hath sent me. (John5: 30).

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my God which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21-22)

 

In others words, he submit to the will of his God and he preached �submission to will of his God which when translate to Arabic would mean �Islam�. He even prophesies the coming of �Islam�. He said:

 �After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.�(Matthew 6:9 )

Coming of God Almighty kingdom on earth �His� will� shall be done on earth. What is the will? God�s will is his divine law. The coming Kingdom is a message from God for all nations. He said: Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.� As we can see that the ticket to Heaven has a �condition� and that is, we have to �do the will of the Father� In other words, we have to be obedience to God Law, what he was preaching is �Submission to the will of God� (Thy will be done on earth) which when translate in Arabic is �Islam� will be done on earth.

In others words, he submit to the will of the father and he preached �submission to will of the Father which when translate to Arabic would mean �Islam�

Allah (S) said:

         We have not sent thee but as a (universal Messenger) to all mankind�but most of mankind know not. (Qur. 34:28)

         Truth has (now) come, and falsehood perished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Qur. 17:81)

         ye People of the Book! Believe in what We have (now) revealed, conforming what was (already) with you� (Que. 4:47)

         None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not Allah hath power over all things?  (Qur. 2:106) 

         Children of Israel! Call to mind the (special) favors which I bestowed upon you, and I preferred you to all others (of your time period, in the past). (Qur. 2:47)

         �in that they (Jews) broke the Covenant; that they reject the signs of Allah; that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right�Allah hath set the seal on their heart for their blasphemy�that they REJECTED FAITH� (Qur. 4:155-156)

         Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) place, and say �We hear and disobey,��and but few of them will believe. (Qur. 4:46)

From those, too, who called themselves Christians We did take a Covenant, But they forgot a good part of the message that was sent down: So We stirred up enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done. (Qur. 5:14)


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re (truthnowcome)comment:   "He said: �After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Allah be thy name.10Thy KINGDOM COME, Islam will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.� (Matthew 6:9-10)"

Friend, since your name is "truthnowcome", it is reasonable to assume you have an affinity for the truth.  Therefore, I must point out how you have perverted the above Matthew 6:9-10 Scripture.  I am sure you will not find Allah and Islam in that scripture in any Bible translation.  Of course, you will not find Islam or Allah even mentioned in the NKJV.  You can verify that for yourself here:  http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=islam&t=NKJV#s=s_primary_0_1

I have several different Bible translations and have never come across any Allah or Islam references.  However, at the link provided, you can search all the translations listed for such references yourself.  That being said, there is some question as to whether YHWH/Jehovah/God Almighty in the Judeo-Christian context is the same as the Muslim Allah.  Jews, Christians and Muslims all are in agreement that there is only One God; however, the attributes ascribed to Him and how He can be approached differ and would be subject to another thread entirely.  My point here is to address your misquoting of Mat. 6:9-10.  Discussion in an interfaith forum demands intellectual honesty and accuracy, even if there is a difference of interpretation.

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Why do people quote a book that they know contains falsehood, and which is the work of falsifiers ?
 
Muhammad (salla Lahu alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) and his companions are praised in the Gospel, the original authentic Gospel that was revealed to Jesus.
 
People should stop spreading lies about Jesus. Lying is one thing. Lying about Jesus is another thing. Jesus has nothing but hate for these people.
 
Fear Jesus. "Cursed by the tongues of Dawud (David) and Isa Ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Maryam)...."
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