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islamispeace
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And the "revolutionaries" preached atheism. Hence, religion was a threat to them and so they proceeded to kill millions as a result. So much for "humanism".
You "ignored" it based on nothing except a childish claim against the credentials of the author. Your "point" was refuted, yet instead of offering an intelligent response, you tried to weasel your way out by ignoring the argument and attacking the author. As I said, who cares what some atheist clown thinks?
So again, no intelligent response, just an attack on the credentials of the author. Very impressive! We have already seen that the Pol Pot regime aggressively promoted and preaches atheism and violently killed anyone who opposed it, especially people with religious beliefs. The lie that atheist clowns promote has been proven wrong through an honest analysis of history. I guess atheists can be just as delusional as anyone else! Edited by islamispeace - 18 August 2014 at 9:07pm |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Ron Webb
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You just said it yourself: the goal was to purge anyone who was a detriment to the (communist) revolution. Various religious, ethnic, regional and social groups opposed them, so they purged them. But the goal had nothing to do with religion. It was done in the name of communism, not atheism.
I didn't reject the claim. I just ignored it because it doesn't address my point. See above.
So now we've moved on from student term papers to self-published "vanity" books from unknown authors? Do you have any idea who Harry Callahan is, or what his credentials are? For that matter, do you have any idea what constitutes a credible source? Edited by Ron Webb - 18 August 2014 at 8:50pm |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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islamispeace
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What a load of crock! Each of these tyrants went out of his way to "purge" anyone who was seen as a "detriment" to the "revolution". Among these were people with religious beliefs. Anyone who refused to abandon his religious beliefs was either imprisoned or killed. This was all in the name of atheism.
Really, Ron? I mean, really? You can't refute the claims of someone, so you attack their credentials? Brilliant! If a foundation founded by a survivor of the Cambodian genocide felt that this paper written by an "undergrad college student" is factually accurate, then who cares what some atheist clown thinks? Of course, a biased nincompoop such as yourself simply rejected the claims of this "undergrad" without bothering to even check if the paper's claims are accurate. How very objective of you! One way to check the paper's accuracy is to check the sources used by the author. For example, in his statement about Pol Pot and the purging of religion, Campbell cited the work of "award-winning journalist Elizabeth Becker" (http://www.amazon.com/When-The-War-Was-Over/dp/1891620002). For shame, Ron! Hang your head in shame! But if that is not enough for you, let me quote another author. Harry Callahan writes in "The Dawkins' Delusion" (a delusion which you are definitely suffering from ): "Pol Pot, the leader of the Marxist regime in Cambodia, Kampuchea, in the 1970s killed 1.7 million of his own people. In fact, the Pol Pot regime specifically preached atheism and sought to exterminate all religious expression in Cambodia." ("The Dawkins' Delusion, p. 161) So, anyone not blinded by atheistic propaganda knows that it is a fact of history that millions have been killed in the name of atheism. Atheistic apologist clowns like yourself can try to rewrite history, but you will ultimately fail and be exposed for the lying filth that you are... Edited by islamispeace - 17 August 2014 at 12:10pm |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Ron Webb
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Yes, they were partly influenced by Marx, who saw religion as part of the problem. Therefore religion was part of a part of their ideology. It was by no means the main focus. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were communists primarily engaged in a class struggle, not a religious one. As I said earlier, none of them committed their crimes because of, or in the name of, atheism. Be afraid of communism if you want, but not atheism. Most atheists are not communist. I'm certainly not.
Seriously? Seriously? Now you're citing a term paper from an undergrad college student as your "source"? "EDITOR�S NOTE: Cory Campbell is a 21 year old history major in his first semester at Cal State Long Beach. He spent three years prior to this at Cypress College. Cory wrote this paper for a Methodology of History course (HIST 301, Fall 2007)." It's especially amusing that Mr. Campbell spent three years at Cypress College, which describes itself as a two year college. Sounds like a real honours student! |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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islamispeace
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And not all religious people believe in killing in the name of their religion. What a coincidence!
Your fake attempts to tell people what the Quran says are not going to fool anyone. Your reference to Surah Tawba only further proves how *****ic and ignorant your are. As far as atheists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, they were all influenced by Karl Marx and the "Communist Manifesto", which among other things, declared religion to be part of the problem. Therefore, it was part of their ideology to be anti-religion, and which drove their pogroms against religious people. For example, Pol Pot persecuted any group which was a "detriment" to the "party", and he included religious groups in that list. According to Cory Campbell of the "Haing S. Ngor Foundation": "Pol Pot knew what he was doing all along, playing quite the contrary to his later claims of ignorance regarding the killings and suffering. The Constitution of Democratic Kampuchea declared freedom of religion in the state, with the exception of any form of worship 'detrimental' to the party. Without clearly defining what classifies a religion as being 'detrimental', Pol Pot was able to use this constitutional clause to justify the purge of religions such as Buddhism and Islam." (http://www.haingngorfoundation.org/_documents/BetweenTheLinesOfThePolPotRegime.pdf) |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Ron Webb
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No, not all atheists are humanists. Unfortunately.
As I keep telling you, there are good and bad people in every group. Atheism is no exception. However, none of the mass murderers you mentioned committed their crimes because of, or in the name of, atheism. That's the difference. We have no ideology that tells us to kill believers wherever we find them. |
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John 16
The spirit of truth will glorify Jesus and all Muhammad have done nothing but descredit Jesus by demoting him to a prophet and not the son of God Muhammad was no spirit of truth he was a selfish war lord and a infidel human been who claimed he was a prophet of Allah and discredit his name Jesus was without sin and Muhammad was a sinner you can't even compare Muhammad to even one of the Bible's prophets.
12 �I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.A)'> 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth,B)'> comes, he will guide you into all the truth.C)'> He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. |
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It depends on faith if ur faith in Allah is strong like a root there is no fear of loosing help of Allah,but if u observe about christianity, christian means the one who follows Jesus Christ (pbuh), Jesus Christ(pbuh), in gospel of John ch 16 v 12-14 says the coming of prophet Muhammad S.A.W (pbuh),tteaching the word of Allah I.e Quran so all things lead to truth I.e islam.moreover ron sir I don't know y u waste time in this forum when u r proud of ur atheism.
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