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    Posted: 21 November 2005 at 3:37am

It's sad how you waste your and, more important, our time twisting distorting and abusing Allah (SWT) message to advise us to make life easy for your Master. The Iraqis and the Afghans are not prepared to listen to your ilk. They are fighting and driving the invaders out :

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Faced with US torture, killing and collective punishment of civilians, support for the Iraqi resistance is growing
Haifa Zangana
Saturday November 19, 2005
The Guardian

The photograph of an elderly Iraqi carrying the burned body of a child at Falluja, widely shown during the chemical weapons controversy of recent days, is almost a copy of an earlier one that Iraqis remember - from Halabja in March 1988. Both children were victims of chemical weapons: the first killed by a dictator who had no respect for democracy and human rights, the second by US troops, assisted by the British, carrying the colourful banner of those principles while sprinkling Iraqis with white phosphorus and depleted uranium.

 

The Falluja image is emblematic of an unjust occupation. We read last week that US troops were "stunned by what they found" during a raid on a ministry of interior building: more than a hundred prisoners, many of whom "appeared to have been brutally beaten" and to be malnourished. There were also reports of dead bodies showing "signs of severe torture". Hussein Kamel, the deputy interior minister, was "stunned" too. This feigned surprise is a farce second only to the WMD lie. Torture has continued as under Saddam's regime in detention centres, prisons, camps and secret cells well beyond Abu Ghraib.

While the US and British governments have spent the 30 months of occupation arguing for the legality of chemical weapons and the "usefulness" of torture to extract information, Iraqis have been engaged in a different struggle: to survive the increasingly harsh occupation, and to define democracy and human rights accordingly. Experiences of collective punishment, random arrest and killing are the defining features.

On October 16, for example, a group of adults and children gathered around a burned Humvee on the edge of Ramadi. There was a crater in the road, left by a bomb that had killed five US soldiers and two Iraqi soldiers the previous day. Some of the children were playing hide and seek, and others laughing while pelting the vehicle with stones, when a US F-15 fighter jet fired on the crowd. The US military said subsequently it had killed 70 insurgents in air strikes, and knew of no civilian deaths.

Among the "insurgents" killed were six-year-old Muhammad Salih Ali, who was buried in a plastic bag after relatives collected what they believed to be parts of his body; four-year-old Saad Ahmed Fuad; and his eight-year-old sister, Haifa, who had to be buried without one of her legs as her family were unable to find it.

US forces increasingly use air strikes to reduce their own casualties. They also work with Iraqi forces on search-and-destroy missions to retaliate after a successful attack on their troops, or to intimidate the population ahead of a US-choreographed political process.

Most Iraqis are indifferent to the political timetable imposed by the occupiers - from the nominal handover of sovereignty to the bizarre three months of sectarian and ethnic wrangling about the interim government and the declaration of a "yes" vote on the draft constitution by Condoleezza Rice within hours of the ballot boxes closing. They think the whole process is intended to divert their attention from the main issues: the occupation, corruption, pillaging of Iraq's resources, and the interim government's failure on human rights.

A recent Human Rights Watch report gave fresh details of torture of detainees by US forces in Iraq. At a military base near Falluja, Mercury, abuse was not only overlooked but sometimes ordered. The report describes routine, severe beatings of prisoners, and the application of burning chemicals to detainees' eyes and skin, to make them glow in the dark. Thousands have been kept for more than a year without charge or trial, including the writer Muhsin al-Khafaji, who was arrested in May 2003.

Women are taken as hostages by US soldiers to persuade fugitive male relatives to surrender or confess to terrorist acts. Sarah Taha al-Jumaily, 20, from Falluja, was arrested twice: on October 8 she was accused of being the daughter of Musab al-Zarqawi, despite her father, a member of a pan-Arab party, having been detained by US troops for more than two months; and on October 19 she was arrested and accused of being a terrorist. Hundreds of people demonstrated, and workers went on strike to demand her release. The interior ministry states that 122 women remain detained, charged with the novel crime of being "potential suicide bombers".

As large-scale US-led military operations continue, the health situation on the ground is at breaking point. The Iraqi health infrastructure, doctors and hospital staff are unable to cope with the deepening humanitarian crisis. No wonder more Iraqis are supporting the resistance.

Armed resistance is in accordance with the 1978 UN general assembly resolution that reaffirmed "the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence ... from ... foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle". The Iraqi National Foundation Congress (INFC), an umbrella group of parties and civil society organisations, is leading political resistance. There is also civil and community resistance, involving mosques, women's organisations, human-rights groups and unions, which are linking up with international anti-war groups and anti-globalisation movements.

Most Iraqis believe that they have a right to more than a semblance of independence. The lesson history taught us in Vietnam, that stubborn national resistance can wear down the most powerful armies, is now being learned in Iraq.

Haifa Zangana is an Iraqi-born novelist and former prisoner of Saddam's regime

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Bismillah,

I agree and support all of your statements here, but feel you left something out too.  Some Iraqis whose family members were hurt or killed or just frightened by the suicide bombings may actually support the US. 

My opinion absolutely doesn't matter compared to the Iraqi people.  They must be divided on who is their biggest enemy, since they are surrounded by factions who don't care about them at all.  How can we hear about these groups you mention who fight the occupation?  We want to hear their statements on the news or the radio or the internet. 

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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what can we do?

its the fault of Arab countries, Insted of helping Iraqi people defend its land they gave airbase to US.

Here is the list of US air-base in middle east.

Ahmed Al Jaber AB, KW
Ali Al Salem AB, KW
Al Dhafra AB, UAE
Dhahran AB, SA
Doha IAP, QA
Eskan Village, SA
Fujairah IAP, UAE
Jeddah A,B SA
Khamis Mushayt AB, SA
Khobar Towers, SA
King Khalid Military City, SA
Kuwait IAP, KW
Masirah OM,
Al Musnana AB, OM
Muharraq BH,
Prince Sultan AB, SA
Riyadh AB, SA
Seeb AB, OM
Shaheed Mwaffaq AB, JO
Shaikh Isa AB, BH
Thumrait AB, OM
Tabuk AB, SA
Taif AB, SA
Al Udeid AB, QA

SA = Saudi Arabia
KW = Kuwait
OM = Oman
BH= Baharaiin

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US Forces In Middle East

KUWAIT

The headquarters of Army Forces Central Command commanded by Lt. Gen. David D. McKiernan is located at Camp Doha.
   
The Army's V Corps headquarters has left Kuwait back to Germany after the conclusion of Exercise Internal Look, but has left 100 of the 600 staff it deployed in Kuwait to keep the command post it deployed running.
   
The Marines' I Marine Expeditionary Force headquarters was also in Kuwait for the exercise, based at Camp Commando. An undisclosed number of Marines remain in the area maintaining the headquarters.
   
2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized), is now in Kuwait, at Camp New York, including around 5,000 troops equipped with M-1A2 main battle tanks, M-2A2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles, and M-109A6 Paladin artillery pieces. The brigade includes two armored battalion task forces and a mechanized infantry battalion task force. The 3rd Division's assault headquarters is also in Kuwait at present, and as noted above, the rest of the division is expected to be deployed.
   
one full brigade plus around four to five more brigade sets of equipment. Each brigade or brigade set has about 116 M-1 Abrams tanks, 60 M-2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, 100 armored personnel carriers, and 25 artillery pieces.
   
Three aviation battalions, each with at least 25 helicopters, have arrived or about to arrive:
   
2nd Squadron, 6th Cavalry Regiment task force, with 21 Apaches, based at Ali Al Salem air base in Kuwait.
   
6th Squadron, 6th Cavalry Regiment (Apache attack helicopters).
   
7th Squadron, 6th Cavalry Regiment (Apache attack, UH-60 transport, helicopters).
   
A Special Forces company (100-200), and other Special Operations units are present.
   
Elements of 3-43 Air Defense Artillery, equipped with Patriot missiles, have deployed from Fort Bliss in Texas to South West Asia, and there are other Patriot units in the area.
   
There are numerous combat support and logistics units, including elements of the 513th Military Intelligence Brigade, with RC-12 intelligence aircraft.
   
Advance party from British 1st Armored Division.
   
Military nuclear, biological, and chemical defense efforts in Kuwait are being run by Combined Joint Task Force Consequence Management, under the command of U.S. Brig. Gen. Craig Boddington. This includes the Czech 4th NBC Defense Company, the U.S. 101st Chemical Company (Forward), and a German unit in Kuwait from the 7th Nuclear-Biological-Chemical Defense Battalion with six Fuchs biological & chemical warfare detection vehicles and around 50 personnel. However, in the event of a unilateral U.S. attack on Iraq, the force may be withdrawn.
   
U.S. Air Force 332nd Aerospace Expeditionary Group (AEG) is located at Ahmed Al-Jaber air base.
   
386th Aerospace Expeditionary Group is stationed at Ali Al Salem air base in the south of Kuwait. About six British Royal Air Force (RAF) Tornado GR.4 attack aircraft are currently at Ali Al Salem, drawn from all UK-based Tornado squadrons. A squadron of RAF Regiment ground defense personnel is also at the base.
   
Fighters from Air Expeditionary Force 7, including the 67th Fighter Squadron from Japan (F-15Cs), 14th Fighter Squadron from Japan (F-16CJs) and the 555th Fighter Squadron from Italy (F-16CGs) are now deploying to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
   
Seabee personnel from Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 5 have been deployed to Kuwait to assist with construction at two air bases.
   
Total number of U.S. military in Kuwait may now be over 10,000.



JORDAN

Jordan provides basing and permits overflights by all U.S. and coalition forces.
   
1,400 U.S. Special Operations troops, almost certainly including Army Special Forces,were exercising in the country as part of Exercise Early Victor '02, which began on Oct.6. Jordanian, Omani, Kuwaiti and British troops also took part in the exercise. It is likely that significant Special Forces elements remain in the country.


BAHRAIN

The top Marine general for Central Asia and the Persian Gulf is Lt. Gen. Earl B. Hailston, who is CENTCOM's Marine Component commander (MARCENT) for all Marine forces in the Pacific. He has his headquarters and staff in Bahrain.
   
Vice Adm. Timothy J. Keating, who served as deputy commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 in support of Operation Desert Storm, is CENTCOM's Naval Component Commander (NAVCENT) for all naval forces in the region. His 5th Fleet headquarters is in Manama, Bahrain.
   
Task Force 50, stationed in the Gulf, is the 5th Fleet�s Battle Force. It also conducts Maritime Interception Operations and enforces UN sanctions against Iraq. It's most important component currently is the USS Constellation carrier battle group. The Constellation group includes the carrier itself, Carrier Air Wing 2, the cruisers USS Bunker Hill (CG 52) and USS Valley Forge (CG 50), the destroyer USS Higgens (DDG 76), the frigate USS Thach (FFG 43), the attack submarine USS Columbia (SSN 771), and the USS Rainer (AOE 7), a combat support ship, as well as ships attached to the Australian group noted below. The ships of the group are probably spread across the Persian Gulf and North Arabian Sea carrying out a variety of missions.
   
Under the command of Australian Captain Peter Jones in the northern Gulf, a task unit is conducting maritime interdiction operations sometimes very close to Iraq shores. It includes the Australian frigates Anzac and Darwin, alongside U.S. ships such as the USS Valley Forge (CG 50), and USS Fletcher (DD 992) and the Polish support ship Kontradmiral X. Czernicki
   
There is also a Canadian led subordinate task group of Task Force 50 conducting maritime interdiction operations in the Arabian Sea.
   
Task Force 53, the headquarters for Navy logistics in the area, is at Bahrain. Support ships that have been in the area recently include the San Jose, a stores ship, John Ericsson, a tanker, and the fleet ocean tug Catawba which is permanently stationed in the Gulf.
   
The USS Nassau amphibious ready group, along with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit. The group comprises USS Nassau (LHA 4), USS Tortuga (LSD 46) and USS Austin (LPD 4).
   
The USS Harry S. Truman battle group departed the U.S. East Coast on Dec. 5 en route to replace the Washington battle group, and is now in the Mediterranean, east of Greece.
   
Four mine countermeasures vessels are assigned to the Fifth Fleet - USS Ardent (MCM 12), USS Cardinal (MHC 60), USS Dextrous (MCM 13), and USS Raven (MHC 61), all based at Bahrain. They form Mine Countermeasures Division 31.
   
Four British Royal Navy minehunters, as well as a support ship, have been sent to the Gulf. The ships include HMS Bangor, HMS Blythe, HMS Sandown, HMS Brockleby and the landing ship HMS Sir Bedivere in support.
   
U.S. Navy and Coast Guard port security forces and inshore boat units are providing port and coastal security through the region, including Port Security Unit 313 from Tacoma, Wash., which has recently been ordered to the region.
   
The United Kingdom has RAF Tri-Star refueling tankers at Bahrain airport
   
The U.S. Navy has P-3 Orion anti-submarine and surveillance aircraft at Bahrain airport on detachment from Patrol Squadron One (VP-1), as well as EP-3 Aries reconnaissance variants detached from Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron One (VQ-1). There is a detachment of MH-53 helicopters supporting U.S. naval forces based there.
   
Naval Special Warfare Unit 3, a SEAL force, is headquartered in Bahrain.



SAUDI ARABIA

A Combined Aerospace Operations Center (CAOC) is located at Prince Sultan Air Base (PSAB), at Al Kharj, south of Riyadh. This is a major command center. Assurances have apparently been given that Saudi Arabian airspace, bases, and the CAOC will be made available in the event of war, according to The New York Times on Dec. 29, 2002.
   
The 363rd Air Expeditionary Group is also stationed at Prince Sultan Air Base. It includes F-16s from the Montana Air National Guard and the 184th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron of the Arkansas Air National Guard, as well as apparently the Air Force Reserve's 457th Fighter Squadron flying F-16s.
   
EA-6B electronic warfare aircraft of Marine squadron VMAQ-1 have been split between PSAB and Al Udeid in Qatar.
   
British Royal Air Force Tornado F.3 fighters, drawn from 43 Squadron, are also at PSAB.



QATAR

Lt. Gen. T. Michael Moseley is CENTCOM's Air Force Component commander (CENTAF) for all Air Force assets in the region. He is now either at Al Udeid Air Base, which is 19 miles outside of Doha, Qatar's capital, or in Saudi Arabia.
   
As Sayliyah, on the outskirts of Doha, is the site of the Central Command headquarters exercise Internal Look. While most of the staff have returned home, a caretaker staff of about 60 remains in place. An additional deputy commander of Central Command, Lt. Gen. John Abizaid, is to be stationed in Qatar during any war with Iraq.
   
The 379th Air Expeditionary Wing is located at Al Udeid. The base now has a 15,000 foot runway and hangers that can accommodate close to 100 aircraft. It is home to 17 air-to-air refueling aircraft and JSTARS reconnaissance aircraft.
   
Headquarters Special Operations Command Central Command appears to be located at Camp Snoopy, Qatar



UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

The 380th Air Expeditionary Wing is based at Al Dhafra, an hour outside Abu Dhabi, consisting of three reconnaissance squadrons:
   
� 12th Expeditionary Reconnaissance Squadron, a number of Global Hawk reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles.

� 99th Expeditionary Reconnaissance Squadron.

� 763rd Expeditionary Air Refueling Squadron, KC-135s providing air-to-air refueling support.
A detachment of Canadian Aurora maritime patrol aircraft is also reported in the United Arab Emirates.



OMAN - 1,150 miles to Baghdad

Airlift hubs at Seeb and Thumrait are currently providing substantial support for the buildup.
   
Masirah Island, the former RAF base, off the cost of Oman, is also another major airlift hub, and a major supply depot, housing the 355th Air Expeditionary Group and at least one squadron of AC-130 gunships. There is also a detachment of U.S. Navy P-3 Orions from Patrol Squadron One.
   
The B-1 force in the area, with the 405th Air Expeditionary Wing, is now located in Oman, possibly at Thumrait.
   
The British Royal Air Force has additional air refueling assets at Seeb to support the no-fly zone in Iraq.
   
A full squadron, numbering up to 100, of the British Special Forces elite Special Air Service regiment is now reported in Oman.
   
The Royal Australian Air Force is about to deploy two P-3 Orion maritime reconnaissance aircraft into the region, which might well end up based in Oman or possibly Qatar.


TURKEY

Incirlik Air Base near Adana hosts the 39th Wing and 4,000 U.S. military personnel assigned to support 50 F-15, A-10 and F-16 fighters, plus U.S. Navy EA-6 Prowler electronic warfare aircraft.
   
Elements of the 94th Fighter Squadron, 1st Fighter Wing, which flies F-15s from Langley AFB, Va., are currently on station.
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The 78th Fighter Squadron, from Shaw AFB, S.C., has recently deployed to Incirlik for northern no-fly zone patrol duties, flying F-16CJs.



DIEGO GARCIA

40th Aerospace Expeditionary Wing is located at Diego Garcia with B-52 bombers and KC-135 aerial refueling tankers.
   
Preparations for forward basing of B-2 Stealth bombers have been underway at Diego Garcia for some time, and also at RAF Station Fairford, Gloucestershire, in the United Kingdom. Recently, two shelters to house B-2s have been set up at Diego Garcia, and it can be assumed that personnel from the B-2�s operating unit, the 509th Bomb Wing, are present
   
Task Group 57.2 of the 5th Fleet, a U.S. Navy P-3 Orion maritime patrol and surveillance force is present.
   
There are also pre-positioned strategic sealift ships for the Army and Air Force. Two Army brigade sets plus a Marine brigade set and equipment to support Marine aircraft are located around the atoll.



DJIBOUTI

A new headquarters, Combined Joint Task Force - Horn of Africa, has been established on the basis of a headquarters element from 2nd Marine Division sent from Camp Lejeune, N.C. The force is directed more toward the war on terror (involving operations in Yemen) than toward Iraq.
   
The command ship Mount Whitney, has now arrived in the area, will house the headquarters initially, but it will then probably move ashore to Djibouti.
   
There are around 800 U.S. troops, including special operations forces, and probably including troops from the Army�s 5th Special Forces Group at Camp Le Monier, near Ambouli Airport in Djibouti city. Special operations aircraft and at least three helicopters are also at the base.
   
The CIA is also operating two Predator unmanned aerial vehicles from the base.



ETHIOPIA and ERITREA

U.S. military activity is underway in both these countries. The port of Assab in Eritrea may become a base for U.S. activities directed toward Yemen.

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The biggest muslim country Saudi Arabia has given 10 air bases to USA.

Stop blaming Western countries and look at your-self

Why did the middle-east countries kept quiet when Iraq was getting bombed?

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'The biggest muslim country Saudi Arabia has given 10 air bases to USA.

Stop blaming Western countries and look at your-self

Why did the middle-east countries kept quiet when Iraq was getting bombed?'


Because they were afraid of Saddam Hussein and his aggressive nature. So, by that time, they have only considered the security of their own land. If any day Saddam would have attacked Saudi they couldn't resist with their own limited forces.This is also true that, despite having a lot of wealth they have always been driven or guided by the US infulences.

Allah knows the best, and He is no doubtly capable of saving His faithfuls.
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My opinion absolutely doesn't matter

Dukhtar'em, every saleh (just) person's opinion counts, specially your's. You may not know, but you hold the aura of an extremely noble soul. Do we all hold you in such respect just for nothing?

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You are one hundred and twenty three percent on the spot, ak_m_f

Brother Alam, they are all illegitimate offsprings of the British Raj now adopted by Uncle Sam. We know whose interest they will serve whether Saddam was a threat or not.

You well know who this lot was when they were spotted for their spinelessness. 

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'Brother Alam, they are all illegitimate offsprings of the British Raj now adopted by Uncle Sam. We know whose interest they will serve whether Saddam was a threat or not.'

My dear brother Sasha,

I know their flaws and faults. But let us not say anything disgracefull about the Arabs. Because, Rasulullah (SAW) had been loving them and this was his warning that, he who disdains the Arabs will not get the sifarish at the day of Jdgement.
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Brother, I have a genuine love of the Arab. I understand them firsthand from the days when my father was an advisor to King Idrees Sinussi of Libya. They are just an absolutely beautiful lot who have been painted in bad colours by our Colonialist lot.

I was just mentioning the hand-picked few who have been placed to rule these men of the the sand dunes - to the advantage of the imperialist thugs.

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