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fais
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Posted: 08 July 2014 at 11:58pm |
Ron,
Well its Hard for you to understand concept of jaria so just I leave it with your own explanations. And if you really want to know what is status of wife in islam then look for hadith from Mohammed s.a.w you may also check 60 ways to keep the love of your wife on you tube. Just curious to know what is your purpose to be on a muslim forum. Edited by fais - 01 September 2014 at 3:34pm |
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Ron Webb
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Hi fais,
If you mean your post on July 4, yes I read it. I didn't reply, frankly because I was offended by your attempt to "poison the well" against shias, and I wasn't sure I wanted to get into an exchange with you.
Besides, I didn't have much to say. I think it's meaningless to talk about a slave "willingly" surrendering to her master, and if you think such a relationship is "as good as his wife" then in your view being a wife must be "as good as" being a slave. I find that comparison offensive as well; but if that is your opinion, you are entitled to it.
Beyond that, we seem to be in agreement that according to Islam there is nothing wrong with Muhammad having sex with his slave, so I don't understand why you want mahedi to remove his/her post.
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fais
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Ron,
I think u dint read my post.i agreed that in islam it is aloud to be with slave girls with their will.if u really want to know islam go find what is jaria in islam.i explained u that it is halal but u r back on your own track.u never found a verse in quran which talks about rights of slave girls who live with you like wife.hope Allah give u hidaya and true knowledge of Islam. |
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mahedi
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fais, at first try to intact and uphold as well as purify your own iman.I am really confused about you, i am really sorry to say.
Edited by mahedi - 07 July 2014 at 4:45am |
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Ron Webb
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I understand why this is a delicate issue, but I don't know why there is so much outright denial about it. I've already cited one verse in the Quran (33:50) that specifically allows it, and I know there are many more. I don't have time to track them down, but here is what appears to be a credible Muslim source that confirms it:
My apologies if this is an anti-Muslim site or something. At a brief glance it looks fine to me. |
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fais
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Mehdi,
If you think u true muslim please remove this post cause i dont think this will increase your iman or benefit u in any way.i tried to clear your doubts and i think that is enough.now this post is giving a chance to people like ron and many more to put defamatory comments against prophet peace be upon him.an advise for u, Iman means beleive in prophet unconditionally.if some one said any thing this shud not create doubts against prophet, this will cause kufr. Learn books on Tauheed from darussalam kind of publication and then u will never doubt.the moment u thought prophet cud Do that u did a kufr.there are people like Ron constantly search for a chance to talk against islam.no matter wot u say they will not accept.summun bukmun umyun the Quality described for such people in Quran.may Allah guide them if hidaya is not there for them then perish them.Ameen. |
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Ignore what you heard against the Mohammed, and pray for forgiveness that you took notice of it.
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fatima
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Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu,
Brother u r right most of us made haste in responding but u c u minded what brother fais said even he gave the best explanation. Brother may Allah subhanahu wataala bless u with knowledge and deep understanding of His deen. This is what is required of a daai, u need to know before u can explain r correct some1 else. Otherwise u r more likely to make it worse n complicate things. And another thing when u want to stand up for the deen of Allah subhanahu wataala u need to leave ur 'me' behind. Ignore any personal comments n inshaAllah u will be gold. Wassalam |
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