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Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:


It happens sometimes.  ...  But it doesn't seem to be possible without a dictator.

Gretings marcello,

I can't help thinking...
that is because islam requires dictatorship.

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Why have they gone "unchallenged" and "unopposed"?
There must be some part of the muslim mind that thinks what they are doing is correct and justifiable?
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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:

It happens sometimes.� ...� But it doesn't seem to be possible without a dictator.
Gretings marcello,I can't help thinking...that is because islam requires dictatorship. asalaam,CH


Probably because Muslims consider themselves slaves (see, e.g., the writings of Abu Loren elsewhere on this forum). Slaves to Allah. Since Allah, of course, is invisible and imperceptible, Muslims need to find some living, breathing, representative of Allah on Earth to enslave themselves to. That's why we see this yearning for a Caliph (Islamic State), or 'Supreme Leader' (Iran).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 August 2014 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:


Probably because Muslims consider themselves slaves (see, e.g., the writings of Abu Loren elsewhere on this forum). Slaves to Allah. Since Allah, of course, is invisible and imperceptible, Muslims need to find some living, breathing, representative of Allah on Earth to enslave themselves to. That's why we see this yearning for a Caliph (Islamic State), or 'Supreme Leader' (Iran).


What a load of rubbish.

Muslims don't need nor look for living, breathing representative of Allah on earth.

From all of your posts you know absolutely nothing about Islam but you write as if you are a scholar.

Why don't you shut the F up?
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:


Probably because Muslims consider themselves slaves (see, e.g., the writings of Abu Loren elsewhere on this forum). Slaves to Allah. Since Allah, of course, is invisible and imperceptible, Muslims need to find some living, breathing, representative of Allah on Earth to enslave themselves to. That's why we see this yearning for a Caliph (Islamic State), or 'Supreme Leader' (Iran).


What a load of rubbish.

Muslims don't need nor look for living, breathing representative of Allah on earth.

From all of your posts you know absolutely nothing about Islam but you write as if you are a scholar.

Why don't you shut the F up?
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Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:

Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:


Probably because Muslims consider themselves slaves (see, e.g., the writings of Abu Loren elsewhere on this forum). Slaves to Allah. Since Allah, of course, is invisible and imperceptible, Muslims need to find some living, breathing, representative of Allah on Earth to enslave themselves to. That's why we see this yearning for a Caliph (Islamic State), or 'Supreme Leader' (Iran).


What a load of rubbish.

Muslims don't need nor look for living, breathing representative of Allah on earth.

From all of your posts you know absolutely nothing about Islam but you write as if you are a scholar.

Why don't you shut the F up?


So prove me wrong. Provide examples in Islamic history of true "Islamic states" that were not ruled by living, breathing dictators.
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Originally posted by marcello marcello wrote:



So prove me wrong. Provide examples in Islamic history of true "Islamic states" that were not ruled by living, breathing dictators.


So how is a dictatorship an Islamic thing? And how is your Western Democracy a good thing?

The Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallm) said that all Muslims should obey and follow their leaders even if he was an Abyssinian slave.

If you ever go to a country where the majority are Muslims then you will find that the people are very happy indeed with the status quo. All the problems are generated by foreign, particularly Western manipulation. If the Western countries minded their own f*ing business then the world would be a safer and better place to live in.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

The Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallm) said that all Muslims should obey and follow their leaders even if he was an Abyssinian slave.

If you ever go to a country where the majority are Muslims then you will find that the people are very happy indeed with the status quo. All the problems are generated by foreign, particularly Western manipulation. If the Western countries minded their own f*ing business then the world would be a safer and better place to live in.


You have proved my point. Muslims are commanded by their
"scriptures" to be satisfied as slaves. Their reward will be in the hereafter. Is it any wonder that Muslim leaders insist on indoctrinating people in such nonsense? After all, it is an excellent way to have people slavishly follow you.
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