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Originally posted by sms2003 sms2003 wrote:

Shamil,  I am from the U.S. and I agree with you that the American Troops are accomplishing nothing in Iraq.  I also agree that they are making it seems like Iraq is nothing but a terrorist region, and they are trying to enforce a new system that the muslims do not believe in.  Can you tell me how this is making the American oligarchs even richer?

The contracts for rebuilding Iraq were all awarded to American companies without any bidding. The companies simply stated a price and they got it. Iraqis were given no chance to participate. Halliburton, whom the vice president once worked for, reported profits of over 130 percent this past year as a result. Bechtel received billions for reconstruction, none of which they have begun.

Those are only two examples but that's the pattern.



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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/082903B.shtml

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9248



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The Connections between Saddam and terrorist groups like Hamas, and al Aqsa Martyr's brigade and most notoriously al Qaeda,

If you could prove that you should be granted the Medal of Honour because even your President could not prove anything of this sort despite all his attempts.

Do you get your briefing from Sharon or just from the Tel Aviv disinformation brigade?

Leave something for us to respect you with, please.
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Do not think American troops are in Iraq helping Iraqis. They are there to help modern day East India Companies. You need to see how East india company helped itself in occupying India. It is just not the Iraq issue. You would need to study Euoropean /British colonialism. The oil producing middle east is divied up likes of colonial British India. Where few thousand soldiers occupied the whole sub continent. They had puppet nawabs and Rajas ruling on behalf of brits,with army cantonment all over to scare the hell out of locals ;divide and conquer was the rule and is the rule in Iraq today. In Iraq they have played the Sunni vs Shia card in a big way. The animosity generated by secular Shias the likes of Ahmed Chalabi and others who pushed  the Christian Zionist-Neo-con group WMD propaganda machine, to attack Iraq, is not going to die down any time soon. http://newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm 

I will give yankees credit for picking a weak link in Muslims in general but Arabs in particuler. Just this issue won't let the hostilities die out any time soon. Historically this shism has been attributed to jewish agent Hassan Bin Sabbah for creating the Shia doctrine and setting up the chasm in the ummah. Now the Shias brought the American boots on Sunni's throats with old arch enemy in toe (Brits) I see this fiasco will take some big disaster to clean up. Right now it is low level civil war. The  shock & awe has not worked other than amount of civilian deaths for miles above. The black glod is going to kill lot of yankees, Brits, Iraqis Shias and Sunnis one way or other. Can't have will let them have a black gold rich colony for peanuts with traitors as accomplices---but that was not the case going to be. These people are in big trouble--thay r going to destroy each other, these people have unearned wealth & greed and now americans are part of this stew. I have read Prophet Mohammud has prophesised about the this blackgold and warning for the people to not be greedy about it or it will be a poisen for them.  It will be to the detrement to american public. Uncle Sam is borrowing from the communist China and blowing billions of dollers on this venture,

american companies in cohot with neocon gang will rob the tax payer blind. If Enron can rob State of California, Iraqi situation is the Devil sent.

American weekend warriors are a naive bunch are stuck with the gamble they opted for. Too bad when end up in body bags, they wanted fun shooting civilians in a muslim country. Get and read some of the books the former vets have written about their experience in Iraq.
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

sms2003 you may like to add this to your project

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya�(protecters to whom you are subordinate to). They are awliya� to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk. (Quran, 5:51)

This is a clear command in the Quran advising muslims not to allow non muslims to dictate to them how they should rule there own lands.

this post further explains the verse and gives you a context to its revelation and how it is interpreted.

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2955& ;PN=1&TPN=1
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Subhan Allah!

O, you who believe [in the message of Muhammad], do not take Jews and Christians as awliya�(protecters to whom you are subordinate to). They are awliya� to one another, and the one among you who turns to them is of them. Truly, God does not guide wrongdoing folk. (Quran, 5:51)
Thanks Rami for this piece of ammunition. Next time our Community shows up I will shoot him with it.
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

The Connections between Saddam and terrorist groups like Hamas, and al Aqsa Martyr's brigade and most notoriously al Qaeda,

If you could prove that you should be granted the Medal of Honour because even your President could not prove anything of this sort despite all his attempts.

Do you get your briefing from Sharon or just from the Tel Aviv disinformation brigade?

Leave something for us to respect you with, please.

Yes, this is an absurd statement. Even the US government has acknowledged no such connection to al Qaeda.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/

This fellow obviously has adopted the strategy of spouting as many lies as possible in hopes that some of them will be believed.

As for the other groups, that is for the occupiers of Palestine to worry about, not the US government.



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As for Saddam's murderous behavior, here is information on America's material and moral support for him:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/29/155243
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