A Brief History of Islam

The work originaly published in Arabic it was translated and indexed by my friend in english on my request, refrences are already within the posts.

What is the name of the work it self that your friend authored and the author himself not whohe is quoting.

When you refrence a work you give the title of the work you your self are copying from not where Author of the book you are quoting is getting his information from. after that is done then you say the source for his views are tabari, ibn hajar etc. You dont say this is from ibn hajar directly which is what you are doing by not clearly saying the title of the work and the name of its author.

i have no problem with the sources i know who they are but i would like to know the name of the work you are getting the information from directly.

Are you saying your friend is of the same status as tabari?

^ where did this come from?

it came from here,

Yes this is translation from Arabic to english directly from the work of scholar like At-Tabari and other.

rami,

You asked me to provied refrences, there are refrences in every post now, if you doubt any please look it up and post it here. That is all I can suggest. As I have not been able to understand the motive for your line of objection. I have not claimed I or my friend to be a scholar of any degree. We do read books written by scholars.

You do have the right to post your version of the history, if you want to use this thread please go head, or you can initiate your own thread.

rami:When you refrence a work you give the title of the work you your self are copying from not where Author of the book you are quoting is getting his information from. after that is done then you say the source for his views are tabari, ibn hajar etc. You dont say this is from ibn hajar directly which is what you are doing by not clearly saying the title of the work and the name of its author.

These are direct quotes from the books and sources mentioned.

rami: Your friend compiled a historical work which was published in arabic and translated into english and you are posting it on this forum.

^ I never claimed this, what I said was that he translate Arabic work for me when I require it for a specific article, as I do not know Arabic language.

rami

Here is a example I wanted a peice of history translated for an on going debate a friend of mine got  material from shia source, which I could not locate on the english sites,

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http://www.shiabooks.info/books/htm1/m013/13/no1304.html
`Allamah Majlisi said: "Some scholars have asserted that ibn Saba was a Jew who accepted Islam and started voicing his opinion of the `wilayat' (divine appointment) of `Ali. While a Jew, he propounded the exaggerative notion that Yusha ibn Nun was divinely appointed to succeed Prophet Musa, he thus adopted a similar stance with regard to `Ali in relation to the Holy Prophet. He was the first to subscribe to the belief of Imamate, and he openly vitriolated his enemies (i.e. the first three Caliphs) and branded them as infidels. The origin of Shi'ism and rafidizm is thus based on Judaism." (Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 25, p. 287).