JESUS (S0 PREACHED THE COMING OF THE QURAN (ISLAM)

Power of GOD wrote:   Shoe shoe now the muslim's can use the corrupted gospel so tenderly to make thier false prophecies about the quran so the lost sheep of Isreal is in fact the arabs which part of the gospel is corrupted and what part is not corrupted was corrupt before Muhammads time or after Muhammads time or just as Muhammad's followers start compiling the bits and pieces of the quran after he passed away THE GOOD NEWS IS THE QURAN IS NOT THE GOOD NEWS AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THE QURAN IS THE BAD NEWS.

Peace unto you!

I have no idea whats your point in relation to my post. I never said anything about corrupt gospel.

This is what I've said:

Now where in the writings it mentioned Jesus (S) claimed he was sent to the Gentiles but in Mark 16:15 mentioned he sends his disciples to preach the Gospel to all creatures (Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creatures. Mark 16:15). That doesn�t in anyway conforms the he was sent to all creatures; what it did, it conforms, he sent his disciples to preach the Gospel to all creatures. The question is what Gospel he was talking about?

To clarifies that we have to know what Gospel Jesus (S) was talking about and what was his mission to the children of Israel.

His mission to the Children of Israel was to fulfilled the laws for them and inform them of the coming kingdom which is a new law to come:

He said: �For verily I say unto you (Israelites), Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.� "Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven....."(Matthew 5: 18-19)

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.� (Matthew 10:5-6)

Quran conforms:

3:50 (Y. Ali) "'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.

Now, when he send his disciples out into the world was not to preach the Law to them the law was for the Israelite, he send them to preach the Gospel.

What �Gospel� he was talking about, is the bible? No, the bible is a collection of books. The Gospel he was he was instructing them about was to go and inform the world of the �Good News of the coming of the Kingdom of God which is another message to come.

Then he told his disciples how it would come in Matthew6: 31-32:

�Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches. (Matthew 6:31-32)

The �grain of mustard seed� is a message to be delivered by a "MAN", Jesus (S) knew of him.

He said:  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is "in" heaven.

John 3: 13

Jesus (S) was the Son of man �ON� earth and he spoke about �another� Son of man which is �IN� heaven.

THE DISCIPLES KNEW OF HIM 

       It was conformed in 1John.4:1

�Beloved, believes not every spirit, but tries the spirits whether they are of god because many false prophets are gone out into the world.� 1John.4:1  

Now, let us look at this statement, �believe not every spirit�. How do we �believe�? We cannot believe if we do not listen and heard the spirit, correct? We have to listen and hear the spirit to believe. Now, the verse continues: �but try the spirits whether they are of God� How do we try the Spirit? By questioning him, and that is not my opinion, V.2 conforms it: �2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:�

The Spirit has to �confess� and if he �confesses� that would mean we have to listen to him. Now, let us go back to V.1 it says: �because many false prophets are gone out into the world.�

Why �gone out into the world�? Because, �into the world� you have to go and look! And what you have to look for? It says: �Because many false prophets are gone out.� The opposite of false prophet is what? True Prophet!!!

 Conclusion: John is saying, go out into the world and look for a true prophet with the true spirit. And how do we know him? V.2 Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God. The prophet with the true spirit will have to confess that Jesus (s) come in flesh.

Br. Zainool

THE CONDITION BEFORE THE COMFORTER COMES

 Now, if we read John 16 verse 7 you will see Jesus (S) laid a �condition� before the other Comforter comes, and the �condition� is, when he goes to the Father in Heaven he will send him according to the N.T. because the other Comforter was in Heaven at that time with the Father. He said in John 16:7:

�Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is expedient for you that I go for if I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart, I will send him unto you!� (John 16:7)

   But according to the N.T. the disciple received the Holy Ghost �before� Jesus (S) left. It is mentioned in John.20:21-22 when Jesus (S) said:

�...as my father hath sent me, even so I send you (the disciple) and  when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, received ye the holy ghost.� (John.20:21-22)

That is the one which Jesus (s) was talking about when he said: �even the spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you.�

Now, if the Spirit of truth is not in them but dwelleth with them (the disciple), then where is the spirit of truth? John chapter 1 verse 32 read:

�I saw the Spirit descending from heaven... and abode upon him.�(John 1:32)

  Jesus (S) was a comforter (1John.2:1) with the spirit of truth strengthening him. So he dwelleth with them (the disciples) and shall be in them, which they received when Jesus (S) breathed on them in John.20:21-22.

   The Qur�an also mentioned of Allah (s) strengthens the believers (Muslims) with a �spirit (Rooh)� from himself:  

�The believers (Muslims) also are strengthen with the spirit from Allah (s): thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the last day, loving those who oppose Allah and his messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such he has written faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from himself (roohin-minhu)...� (Qur�an 58:22)

La tajidu qawman yuminoona biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri yuwaddoona man hadda Allaha warasoolahu walaw kanoo abaahum aw abnaahum aw ikhwanahum aw AAasheeratahum olaika kataba fee quloobihimu aleemana waayyadahum biroohin minhu� Qur�an 58:22

 The Qur�an also described Jesus (S) as a spirit proceeds from Him and he was supported by the Holy Spirit (Rooh ul Qudus):

��Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His word (BE), which he bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him (Roohun minhu)� (Q.4: 171); O! Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Rooh ul Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)].� [al-Maa'idah 5:110]      

In the above explanation I have given are: (1) we have the Comforter which is the Holy Spirit that was �abode upon Jesus (s)� (2) and we have the other Comforter like Jesus (s) that was �with the father in heaven.� Jesus (s) mentioned of the one in heaven with the father in john 3:13:

�and no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is �IN� heaven.� John 3:13

HOW WILL THIS COMFORTER ABIDE WITH US FOREVER? JESUS (S) TELLS US

 This explanation is from the late Ahmad Deedat [May Allah (S) rewards him], he explained:

  �In Luke, Chapter sixteen, Jesus (S) tells us the story of the �rich man, Poor man.� At death both find themselves at opposite ends � one in Heaven and one in Hell. The rich man simmering in Hell cries to Father Abraham to send the beggar (Lazarus) to slake his thirst. But when every plea fails, he, ask a last favor, requesting that Father Abraham send the beggar to earth to warn his living brother against their impending doom if they heeded not the warning of God.

But Abraham said, �If they (those still alive on earth) hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (To warn them)� Luke 16:31

  Jesus uttered the above parable centuries after the demise of the prophets of Israel Jeremiah, Hosea, etc. and over thirteen hundred years after Moses (S). The Pharisees at that time of Jesus (S) and we today can still listen to �Moses and the Prophets.� For they are alive still alive, and with us here today in their teaching and so was Muhammad (S) the �Another Comforter� (Nothing new, Jesus said it!)�

Christian�s Scholars says the Disciples received The Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost.

But it says in John.20:21-22

�...As my father hath sent me, even so I �send� you (the disciple) and when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, �received ye the Holy Ghost.� (John.20:21-22).

Did Jesus (S) �send� the disciples out �empty hand?� No! The disciples received some thing when Jesus (S) breadth on them. What they receive? It clearly stated, �received ye the Holy Ghost."

But why they did? John 20:23 gives the answer:

�Whosesoever sins ye (The disciples) remit, they are remited unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.�

So there is no future event on Pentecost, the disciples already �received the Holy Ghost to remit sins�. The event of Pentecost was a fulfillment of a prophesy of Joel (S).

Act 2:14-16

14But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

 15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

 Not Jesus (S)! I know they were looking for the �another Comforter: A True Prophet with a True Spirit� in 1John 4:1.

He was in heaven:

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN (John 3:13).

Jesus (S) was the Son of man and was �on the earth�; he then spoke of another Son of man which is �IN HEAVEN�

And John said:

�Beloved, believe not every SPIRIT, but try the SPIRITS whether they are of God because many false PROPHETS are gone out into the world.� (1John.4:1)  

John is saying you must look for a TRUE PROPHET with the SPIRIT of TRUTH strengthening him.

  Concerning the remitting of sin: Whosesoever sins ye (THE DISCIPLES) �REMIT,� they are �REMITED� unto them�

 No body has the power to forgive sin except God Almighty. The point is, according to Christians understanding of the bible Jesus (S) forgive sin and also the disciples.  Human cannot forgive sins because they do not know when some one sin in their heart. 

 What the scriptures simple means is, if some accepted the truth their sin would automatically forgiven and if the refuse it will remain.

 Same in Islam, if you accept the truth, believe in the one true God and believe in his final Messenger Muhammad (S), your sin will be forgiven. Is not that the person who give you the message will forgive your sin, it is Allah (S) who forgive sin.

  Christians says, the Comforter was promised to the disciples at that time and not some 600 years later.

1John 4:1 �Beloved, believe not every SPIRIT, but try the SPIRITS whether they are of God because many false PROPHETS are gone out into the world.�   
 
John is saying you must look for a PROPHET with the SPIRIT of TRUTH moving in him.

Power of GOD wrote:    I can see here you want to make every one believe that Muhammad was the spirit of truth or the spirit of truth dwelt in him then this so called spirit of truth didn't last very long like the gospel said the spirit of truth will be with you forever and they did not have to wait five to six hundred years or od years. The fact is you want relate Muhammad to the spirit of the comforter right he was the comforter he died where is he now dead in his grave a your alegations have lead you up to nothing and even when he was a alive there was no spirit of truth moving in him like you said, What is your point IN RELATING Muhammad to the spirit of truth? Please come to the point What is benefit of the doubt?Do you know what holy means and comforter means, it means clean without sin and made you relaxed, selfconfident,warm,without fear,no worries and open minded.   JOHN 14:15-17:  "If you love me you will obey what I command.  And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.  The world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him.  But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you (here it states that the Spirit will be in Jesus's disciples and only those who believe in Jesus so What has the Muhammad factor got to do with this?He didn't even believe  in him he was just old and forgotten prophet second to Muhammad.

HOW WILL THIS COMFORTER ABIDE WITH US FOREVER? JESUS (S) TELLS US

 This explanation is from the late Ahmad Deedat [May Allah (S) rewards him], he explained:

  �In Luke, Chapter sixteen, Jesus (S) tells us the story of the �rich man, Poor man.� At death both find themselves at opposite ends � one in Heaven and one in Hell. The rich man simmering in Hell cries to Father Abraham to send the beggar (Lazarus) to slake his thirst. But when every plea fails, he, ask a last favor, requesting that Father Abraham send the beggar to earth to warn his living brother against their impending doom if they heeded not the warning of God.

But Abraham said, �If they (those still alive on earth) hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (To warn them)� Luke 16:31

  Jesus uttered the above parable centuries after the demise of the prophets of Israel Jeremiah, Hosea, etc. and over thirteen hundred years after Moses (S). The Pharisees at that time of Jesus (S) and we today can still listen to �Moses and the Prophets.� For they are alive still alive, and with us here today in their teaching and so was Muhammad (S) the �Another Comforter� (Nothing new, Jesus said it!)�