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Al Saadiqeen21
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Thankyou I Agree with you 100% Most people are to lazyyy to take the time to Research things , thankyou . Keep searching for more truth ok |
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Placid
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Hi Al,
From Post 2, Page 1: Quote: The subject of this ( Post ) is one of interest to a great multitude of peope . Why ? The reason is that many people who have any kind of knowldge of the Gospel of Barnabas ( 19 B.C. - 62 A.D.) have their own opinions of it . Some Believe it Exist , other do not . And their are other who do not know what to Believe . The purpose of The Gospel of Barnabas , It is a beatiful , awesome and inspiring work . Which will guide you on a journey through time to the period that holds the key to understanding this magifficant story . Once you understand the true account of this worthy Disciple , you will no longer be held prisoner by Belief in the Trinity , the Crucifixion of Isa , Jesus ( The Messiah , Pbuh ) . Response: --- If you check on line you can find information on the book called the Gospel of Barnabas. --- There is some mystery around it, because it says it was written from the 1200-1400 AD, --- either in Italian and translated into Spanish, or in Spanish and translated to Italian. --- It is written as though he was an Apostle, but the disciple, Barnabas, in the Book of Acts, is not mentioned until Chapter 4, some time after Jesus had been resurrected, and had ascended to heaven. --- It is by no means authentic or factual, but whoever wrote it used the name �Barnabas� and for unknowing readers, it can sound like scriptural writing. However, there was an Epistle by Barnabas which is dated from the first century, when Barnabas lived, and is included in the Codex Siniaticus of 400 AD. --- While your Barnabas distorts the story of the crucifixion, --- It is written this way in the Epistle of Barnabas Chapter 5: 1 For to this end the Lord endured to deliver His flesh unto corruption, that by the remission of sins we might be cleansed, which cleansing is through the blood of His sprinkling. 2 For the scripture concerning Him containeth some things relating to Israel, and some things relating to us. And it speaketh thus; He was wounded for your transgressions, and He hath been bruised for our sins; by His stripes we were healed. As a sheep He was led to slaughter, as a lamb is dumb before his shearer. 3 We ought therefore to be very thankful unto the Lord, for that He both revealed unto us the past, and made us wise in the present, and as regards the future we are not without understanding. 4 Now the scripture saith; Not unjustly is the net spread for the birds. He meaneth this that a man shall justly perish, who having the knowledge of the way of righteousness forceth himself into the way of darkness. 5 There is yet this also, my brethren; if the Lord endured to suffer for our souls, though He was Lord of the whole world, unto whom God said from the foundation of the world, Let us make man after our image and likeness, how then did He endure to suffer at the hand of men? 6 Understand ye. The prophets, receiving grace from Him, prophesied concerning Him. But He Himself endured that He might destroy death and show forth the resurrection of the dead, for that He must needs be manifested in the flesh; 7 that at the same time He might redeem the promise made to the fathers, and by preparing the new people for Himself might show, while He was on earth, that having brought about the resurrection He will Himself exercise judgment. 8 Yea and further, He preached teaching Israel and performing so many wonders and miracles, and He loved him exceedingly. 9 And when He chose His own apostles who were to proclaim His Gospel, who that He might show that He came not to call the righteous but sinners were sinners above every sin, then He manifested Himself to be the Son of God. 10 For if He had not come in the flesh neither would men have looked upon Him and been saved, forasmuch as when they look upon the sun that shall cease to be, which is the work of His own hands, they cannot face its rays. 11 Therefore the Son of God came in the flesh to this end, that He might sum up the complete tale of their sins against those who persecuted and slew His prophets. 12 To this end therefore He endured. For God saith of the wounds of His flesh that they came from them; When they shall smite their own shepherd, then shall the sheep of the flock be lost. 13 But He Himself desired so to suffer; for it was necessary for Him to suffer on a tree. For he that prophesied said concerning Him, Spare My soul form the sword; and, Pierce My flesh with nails, for the congregations of evil-doers have risen up against Me. 14 And again He saith; Behold I have given My back to stripes, and My cheeks to smitings, and My face did I set as a hard rock. 6:4 And the prophet saith again; The stone which the builders rejected, this became the head and the corner. And again He saith; This is the great and wonderful day, which the Lord made. Placid |
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Beat it with that crap crying like a woman
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Webber
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I see your "hop to it" aggression as a sign of insecurity and weakness, but hey...
Don't come with that pasting line etc etc Tells me you can copy/paste anything you like without question, (whether you even read it or not). I believe your point is Christians should jump to your post, run around looking for answers you believe are not there, neither would you accept any explanation regardless. All this, just for you. Is comedic. Reminds me of the special needs syndrome, but I don't know you well enough to discern. Copy/paste is fine as long as you give credit where credit is due. (supply source) In this case I can understand not having done that as a quick search found the sane speech in four other blogs, (even a Sunni site) but none of them gave the true source either... "and I quote"...cute. To be fair, (which I don't believe you care to be) you'd have to read the pre and post chapters to understand what he's talking about, (which I doubt you would). I don't imagine your agenda includes learning the truth so until you actually have read there's nota lota use explaining anything, is there. |
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Webber < Don't come with that pasting line etc etc , just because you disagree , Paul is a Deceiver and a Liarrrrr plus his body house the devil . The Book of Romans 3 ; 7 , States , And I quote ; For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
The Book of Romans 7 ; 14 - 24 States , And I quote ;For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? By the way Paul the liar/ devil never met The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ . If you going step to me don't come with any Story-line or Hadith with backing it up with Scriptures . Also don't come with weak excuse just because you disagree , I see that as sign of Insecurity and Weakness
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Webber
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Wonder if you read all that before pasting.
Yes, Barnabus is mentioned some 20 times in the NT. He truly was one of the lost sheep of Israel, exactly who Jesus came for. He became one of the best Apostles. Barnabus introduced Paul to the Disciples as "called" as they all were. Note that this does not make Paul a self-appointed apostle. They became good friends and did missionary journeys together. The falling out was over taking an "apprentice" along on the trip or not, nothing between their beliefs. Proof is there, Paul and Barnabus knew the same God, the same Jesus, and preached the same message. This becomes problematic in the sense that either Paul was a true Apostle, or Barnabus was in on the whole "evil Paul" scheme. It's very interesting that nothing written by Barnabus wasn't kept, or accepted at Nicaea. He's accredited a Gospel, an Epistle, and an Apocalypse yet all we have is the gospel of Barnabus of very questionable origin. Does not always agree with the Quran either... |
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Now , the question arisess How did Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) manage to gain a position in control over the church and succeed in submitting these Lies which were against the original teaching of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) completely ? The answer is really quite simple , Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) came from a respectable and affluent family . His father had acquired Roman nationality . This fact alone quaranteed that his family possessed considerable inffuence in the upper Roman society and the official circle .
He performed self-appointed tasks . He was a native of Sarcus and belonged to the Pharisees a sect known to hold narrow-minded views Having gained knowldge about Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) and his teachings , he came down to Jerusalem to lend his aid to the High Priest and the Elders in persecuting the following of the new Prophet . Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) weakened the church , and entering house after house , he charged off men and women to prison and commited them .
The Book of Acts 8 ; 3 , Where It States ; As For Saul , He ( Made Havoc ) Of The ( Church ) Entering Into Every House And ( Haling ) Men And Women Committed Them To Prison . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
During the entering period of the ministry of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) , Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) remained in the forefront of the persecuters . He Had Never Seen Or Even Met Isa , Jesus The Messiah ( Pbuh ) . The only time he cliamed to have seen Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) was in a vision he had when he was going to Damascus on his mission of persecuting the followers of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) . He claimed he saw a dazzling light and heard a voice saying , ''Saul , Saul , why are you persecuting me ? Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) claim to the apostleship was based on this vision . According to him , Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) chose him as his instrument for carrying his teachings to the Gentiles ( people who were not of the house od israel ) as well as the Judahites ( the lost sheep of Israel ) .
This is the only evidence that Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) could produce for his bid for the leadership of the new church . No wonder the Judahites were highly sheptical about the whole cliam and would not listen to him . It is an undisputable fact is history that Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) simply refused to get any available guidance from those who had been near and dear to Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ). This was because he could not stand the thought of himself not being the source of information .
He assumed leadership of the church through sheer force of his personality . It is indeed very strange that during his ministry while Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) was among his disciples in Palestine , he taught them that the law of Moses ( Pbuh ) was in no case to be destroyed . He thoroughly engraved upon their minds that they were not to take his teachings to the Gentiles ( people who were not of the house of Israel ) .
The Book of Matthew 10 ; 5 - 6 , Where It States ; These Twelve Jesus Sent Forth , And Commanded Them / Saying . Go Not Into The Way Of ( The Gentiles ) And Into Any City Of The Samarians ( Enter Ye Not ) But Go Rather To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
The Book of Matthew 15 ; 24 , Where It States ; But He Answered And Said , I Am Not Sent But Unto The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
Yet , within a very short time after the ( So-called Crucifixion ) he appears in a vision to cancel his previous teachings . It is very strange indeed that he does not appear to his own Trained and Tried Disciples , but chooses a person who was one of his most active enemies over his devoted friends and followers . As instructed in his acclaimed vision , Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) went to Damascus where Ananias , a devoted disciples , opened his eyes fully to the truth . Having accepted Isa , Jesus the Messiah (Pbuh ) .
Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) lost no time in assuming the role of the leader . The Judahites ( the lost sheep of the house of Israel ) in Damascus were anxiously awaiting the arrival of the party , led by Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) , for arresting the followers of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) for persecution . They were flabbergasted to see their young leader not only advocating the cause of Christians but actually exhortina them to accept Isa , Jesus the Messiah (Pbuh ) who they believed died on the cross .
They were extremely disappointed and very much annoyed at this strange behavior of Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) who they thought was their companion . In vengeance , they called him a Turncoat and conspired to kill him . But Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) heard of this conspiracy , and in that night his companions let him down in a basket through an opening in the wall . After this narrow escape , he was forced to go into hiding .
The Book of Galatians 1 ; 16 - 17 , Where It States , ( To Reveal ) His Son In Me . That I ( Might Preach ) Him Among The ( Heathen ) Immediated I Conferred Not With ( Flesh ) And ( Blood ) . 17 . Neither Went I Up To Jerusalem To Them Which Were ( Apostles ) Before Me ; But I Went Into Arabic , And Returned Again Unto Damascus . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
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Who is the man behind the ( Lies About Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) .
The Book of Romans by Paul 3 ; 7 - 10 , Where It States ; For If The ( Truth ) Of ( Allah ) Hath More Abounded Through My ( Lie ) Unto His ( Glory ) Why Yet Am I Also Judge As ( Sinner ) ? ( 8 ) . And Not Rather ( As We Be Slanderously Reported , And As So Affirm That We Say ) Let Us Do Evil , That ( Good ) May Come ? Whose ( Damnation ) Is ( Just ) . ( 9 ) . What Then ? Are We Better Than They ? No , In No Wise For We Have Before Proved Both ( Jew and Gentiles ) Are All Under ( Sin ) . ( 10 ) . As It Is Written , There Is None ( Righteous ) No , Not One . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
In this Verse from the Book of Romans , Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) is speaking of Himself . He is saying that it is Alright To Tell Lies and Distort the Truth as long as it Brings Followers , In his opinions , this should not render him A Sinner . ( This Was His Way Of Justifying His Actions ) !
'' For If The Truth Of Allah Hath More Abounded Through My ( Lie ) Unto His Glory ; Why Yet Am I Also Judged As A Sinner '' He Also Says It Is Alright To Do Evil In Order That Good May Come . '' Let Us Do Evil , That Good May Come , Whose Damnation Is Just What Then ? Are We Better Then They ? No , In No Wise ; For We Have Before Proven Both Jews And Gentiles . That They Are All Under Sin'' .
Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) in these verses is claiming himself to be something other than a Jew . Both Jew and Gentiles are both wrong , and none are righteous in Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) eyes . This is to say , since no one is righteous , it is alright to do , His Evil Works ! Through the influence of Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle )in the Christian Doctrines , we can clearly see the reason for the difference between Christianity and the Teaching of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) .
How can one account for the diffrence between Christianity and the Teaching of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) ? This can only be answered by knowing the influence of Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) on the Christian Doctrine . ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) whose real name was Saul , is one of those who leaves deep impressions on the pages of history.
In whatever form they appear on the stage of the world , they always play a leading role . Through his inconsistent contredictroy actions , Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle )became a mystery for the world of religion - a fact that leaves the thinker's mind greatly perplexed .
In the beginning Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) appears before us in the matching role of a blood - thirsty persecutor and a firebrand lieutenant of the High Priest chasing and hunting the small group of humble people who had accepted the teaching of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) ,and we see him standing self-assured in the crowd that witnessed the martyrdom of Stephen . But , a few years later , he himself is slain for championing the cause of Christianity , the teachings which he himself taught and not the teaching of Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) . When brought before King Agrippa , we see him pleading for himself in a masterly manner and claiming that he was once a very staunc hand practicing Pharisee - - a very conservative sect that firmly belived in the following commandent ;
Torah ( 5 Books of Moses ) Exodus 30 ; 2 , Where It States ; Thou Shalt No Other Dieties ( Allah ) Before Me . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
A little later , we find him putting together a theorty which totally opposed the root pf Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) teaching , that was Tawhiyd ( The Oneness Of Allah ) . Although Isa , Jesus the Messiah ( Pbuh ) had repeatedly called himself '' Son Of Man '' Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) , insisted or making him a diety , not only equal in rank with Allahu Sabhaanahu Wa Ta'Ala , but one being as powerful as He also .
The Book of Galatians 2 ; 21 , Where It States ; I Do Not Frustrate The ( Grace of Allah ) For If ( Righteousness ) Come By The ( Law ) Then The Messiah Died In Vain . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
This Man '' Saul ( Paul , The Self -Appointed Apostle ) spoke again on the same subject ;
The Book of Romans 3 ; 20 , Where It States ; Therefore By The Deeds Of The Law There Shall No Flesh Be Justified In His Sight ; For By The Law Is The Knowldge Of Sin . < King James Version ( Hebrew -Greek - Arabic ) Key Word Study Bible >
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