Error in Quran and hadiths about Thamud |
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NABA
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Y wud demons and Satan would write verse for eg ch 4 v 19-don't live harshly with women, ch 17 v 23-24-b good to parents, concept of God ch 112 v 1-4-Say Allah is one, he is eternal, he is neither born nor give birth, there is nothing like him.y wud angels say we had provided angels in front and behind in ch 13 v 11, means to say that I provided me in front and behind u, u know what I mean???therefore brother Quran is the word of God.
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Abu Loren
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Your logic, reasoning and intellect was flawed from the beginning when you started this thread. First of all, the people of Thamud are unkown outside of the Qur'an and Islam so this would not be a subject matter for study outside of Islam. Secondly, we are told by Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala that the people were completely destroyed, there were no traces of them left except the buildings they built. Now you can talk about the Nabataeans all you want until the cows come home but it doesn't make you right. That is because you yourself has stated that they occupied the land c300 BC to c200 Ad or thereabouts, so again the people of Thamud were destroyed a long time before the Nabataeans were even alive. So your arguement just doesn't make any sense. Sure I can believe that a group of people lived there at the time frame that you mentioned but that doesn't mean that they build those buildings nor carved out the artwork there. In fact all of your arguments on this forum are flawed because we given you answers to your questions but you are so focused on proving the Qur'an wrong that you have become blind. It proves the Qur'an that people like you have been under a veil and you cannot see the truth. The answers we gave are, for example, the honey bee eating all the fruits. Of course the bees wouldn't eat fruits that are poisonous that is just ridiculous. Similarly some fruits are mentioned in the Qur'an such as dates, olives, pomegranates etc does that mean we are only allowed to eat only those fruits? Of course not. Then your question regarding the barrier between the salt water and the fresh water, if you could just google this then you will get a photo of where the salt water meets the fresh water and there is a clear barrier you can see. It seems obvious to me that you lack simple common sense (not meant to be insulting but a fact). |
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TG12345
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As I have demonstrated, there are also similar, noble teachings in the Mormon religion. Does that mean it came from God? |
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NABA
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That's not an answer to my Question, my Question was can satan demons can write those peaceful verses?????
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quintessential
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It does not matter if you think it would be farfetched or not. You're opinion is not important when it comes to cold hard facts. The fact here is that it is POSSIBLE for Allah to have done that. Even you cannot deny the fact that Allah is more than capable of such. If he can create the heavens and the earth this would certainly be no feat for him. Now that we have agreed that it is POSSIBLE for Allah to have done this. Do you see the huge gaping error in the logic you applied in making your comments? There are MANY scenarios that could have occurred to account for what you deem an "error". As has been said above in this thread by others, its more or less common knowledge in this thread now that you only accept that one scenario presented by you as fact because that is your agenda. You pretend like you're here to discuss and debate but really you're just here to push an agenda. Forget the numerous rebuttals that have been presented to you. If you really wanted to debate you would first and foremost be discussing the Tauhid vs Trinity issue before anything else because that is waaaaaay more important. Surely the fate of one's soul is the most important thing to anyone. Any Muslim will tell you if you died today believing in the trinity (a.k.a shirk), its game over. Hell for eternity. If you really wanted to debate that's what you would be debating first, but like I said in my first post months ago...... you're not here for that, though you won't admit you're here to push an agenda. Well, that's my assessment. I'll let everyone draw their own. Edited by quintessential - 29 October 2013 at 8:43am |
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Abu Loren
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TG12345 if you think the Qur'an was written by satan why don't you state it clearly instead of beating around the bush?
If you think the Qur'an was writen by the devil then that is so amazing because satan is warning us about himself. The Qur'an states so many times that satan is a clear enemy to man, if satan did write the Qur'an as you accuse then satan os not very intelligent my friend. |
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Caringheart
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Regarding earlier comments....
Satan is the great deceiver... the one who will present himself as something he is not... misleading by seeming to present truth, when in actuality denying it. Salaam. |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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TG12345
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Salaam Alaikum, NABA and Abu Loren and Quintessential. I am going to be away from the forum for a few days. Thank you for your posts, I will reply to them next week or later this week, inshAllah.
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