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    Posted: 22 February 2013 at 12:09pm
Was Paul a real apostle or a fake?

Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?
Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.
Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.




Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the Disciples OR Jesus
Paul was never trained by the disciples, the men who walked, talked, and broke bread with our Saviour. He received his knowledge from "revelations."
Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it



In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!"
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Mahdi Said

Was Paul a real apostle or a fake?

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Where are you getting this stuff from?

 
Mahdi Said

Paul said God's law was a Curse. Jesus said it was a blessing. Who's lying?

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Why don’t you quote the verses and we can look at them in context.

 

Mahdi Said

Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings, he condemned Jesus Himself for having long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14, something approved in Numbers 6:5 and Judges 13:5.

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To understand this 1 Corinthians 11:14b you need to understand what the situation was like in Corinth. At this time Corinth was known for it's immorality and perversity and the men that were sexual perverted had long hair. Paul  didn't want the men in the church to be taken for perverted. That's why he wrote this.

 

Apart from your point about long hair please quote the verses where Paul condemned Jesus and His disciples for false teachings so we can look at them in context.

 

 

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Jesus Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27)

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You misunderstand Mark 2:27. Once again you do not understand the context verse or context. According to the religious people Jesus was breaking the Sabbath and Jesus then is condemning the religious people for being too religious with the Sabbath.

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Jesus said circumcise male children (Luke 2:21) , Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26). that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21.

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Wrong! You quote this verse is out of context (as usual). Jesus was not even talking in Luke 2.21.

 

 

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Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the Disciples OR Jesus

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The resurrected Christ initiated Paul as an apostle on the Damascus rd and Peter and James recognized blessed him as an apostle as is shown in the Book of Acts.

 

 

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Paul was never trained by the disciples, the men who walked, talked, and broke bread with our Saviour.

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and Peter and James recognized him as an apostle as is shown in the Book of Acts.

 

 

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He received his knowledge from "revelations."

Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it

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Mohammad received his knowledge from ‘revelations’ and  Paul had more Jewish credentials than Mohammad ever had.

Where are the verses showing Paul's account of his Damascus Road Experience changed every time he told it ?

 

 

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In 1 Corinthians 15:1 Paul says that he was not giving them anything but what “he preached.” He explained this even further in the second book (or letter) to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 11:17). It reads - “That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.”

He's telling you plain and simple he was speaking of himself and not from or of the Lord!" 

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So what’s your point here?

 

Was your Mohammad a prophet? He was a war monger who lived by the sword. He encouraged his men to take slave girls as prizes and he advised husbands to beat their wives.



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Lol Mahdi, you spend too much time on answering-christianity.com.
 
Just cuz, please show us where you think you saw Jesus with long hair.
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I also wonder if your M... was a prophet considering he had S relations with a little girl ?
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Originally posted by Experiential Experiential wrote:

I also wonder if your M... was a prophet considering he had S relations with a little girl ?
if 18 is little, yes he did. and stop trying to divert the topic. will be back with more evidence for my point of view.
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Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke Mahdi The Seeke wrote:

Originally posted by Experiential Experiential wrote:

I also wonder if your M... was a prophet considering he had S relations with a little girl ?
if 18 is little, yes he did. and stop trying to divert the topic. will be back with more evidence for my point of view.
Actually. More like 9yrs old.
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Hard to imagine that Paul was willing to be beaten, imprisoned, and die, for nothing, when he could have lived his whole life as an esteemed member of the Roman empire, and one of the Pharisees.  I would say something spectacular had to have happened to bring about such a transformation to this man's life, wouldn't you?


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Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke Mahdi The Seeke wrote:

Originally posted by Experiential Experiential wrote:

I also wonder if your M... was a prophet considering he had S relations with a little girl ?
if 18 is little, yes he did. and stop trying to divert the topic. will be back with more evidence for my point of view.
 
You have evidence Jesus had long hair?
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