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Power of GOD
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That doesn't answer my question, why would God start a false religion and the he discovered that he made a mistake? Do you think God will do that answer this for me please.
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http://quranandbible.blogspot.com/ Edited by islamispeace - 15 August 2014 at 7:26pm |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Anyone who reads the Bible with objectivity would realize that it is a book which is full of historical and scientific errors, exaggerations, myths and contradictions. This can be plainly observed. Of course, people like you have been brain-washed from the get-go. You don't see the clear evidence of the Bible's less than reputable material. Edited by islamispeace - 15 August 2014 at 6:30pm |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Okay how did you discover that islam is true and Christianity was false please tell me were you born a muslim or were converted to islam tell me you are a very inteligent person do you think God will start a false religion that overshadow the world and after 500 years discovered that he made a huge mistake and started a new religion please answer my question.
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Well, what else do you expect him to do? Some people prefer to sit back and be spoon-fed a bunch of lies instead of doing honest research. They need to feel that everyone else is wrong, and they are right. They need to satisfy their egos! |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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It doesn't matter where I get it is the truth is the truth no matter where and how Sam Shamoun eyes is very wide open so is the muslims who accept Christ as thier saviour and convert to Christianity.
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You can copy and paste Sam Shamoun and any other anti Muslim all you want but that doesn't make it right.
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La Ilaha IllAllah
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The History of Tabari claims that the first Arabic speakers were Shem�s grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Abraham, however, was nine generations after Shem.�God made �Ad, �Ubayl, Thamud, Judays, �Imlaq, Tasm, Umaym, and the children of Joktan b. Eber b. Shelah b. Arpachsad b. Shem b. Noah able to understand Arabic.� (History of Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 18)
�It is said that �Imliq was the first to speak Arabic when they departed from Babylon. They and Jurhum are called the �aribah Arabs.� (Hist. Tabari, Vol. 2, pp. 17-18) The Arab genealogies were written over 2000 years after the birth of Ishmael, and they did not have reliable genealogies past Muhammad�s forefather Adnan. Genealogical information was so scarce and unreliable that Muhammad needed a �revelation� to find out he was from Mudar
�Ma'n Ibn 'Isa al-Ashja'i al-Qazzaz (silk-merchant) informed us; he said: Mu'awiyah Ibn Salih informed us on the authority of Yahya Ibn Jabir who had seen some Companions of the Prophet and said: The people of Banu Fuhayrah came to the Prophet and said to him: You belong to us. He replied: Verily, (the archangel) Gabriel has informed me that I belong to Mudar.� (Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, Volume I, p. 4; this quote was taken from Sam Shamoun�s article ��Ishmael Is Not the Father Of Muhammad�) Muhammad�s alleged revelatory information was about as far as Muslim scholars could agree upon �The genealogists do not differ concerning the descent of our Prophet Muhammad as far as Ma�add b. �Adnan.� (Hist. of Tabari, Vol. 6, p. 37) Examples of conflicting traditions past Ma�add b. Adnan Al-Zubayr b. Bakkar � Yahya b. al-Miqdad al-Zam�i � his paternal uncle Musa b. Ya�qub b. �Abdullah b. Wahb b. Zam�ah � his maternal aunt Umm Salamah, the wife of the Prophet: �I heard the messenger of God say, �Ma�add b. �Adnan b. Udad b. Zand b. Yara b. A�raq al-Thara.� (History of Tabari, vol. 6, p. 38) Al-Harith-Muhammad b. Sa�d � Hisham b. Muhammad � Muhammad b. �Abd al-Rahman al- �Ajlani � Musa b. Ya�qub al-Zami � his paternal aunt � her grandmother Bint al-Miqdad b. al-Aswad al-Bahrani: The Messenger of God said, �Ma�add b. �Adnan b. Udad b. Yara b. A�raq al-Thara� (History of Tabari, vol. 6, p. 38) In regard to the time before Adnan Muslims have a very difficult time tying Adnan to Abraham. Notice they have only a few names (9 while some say only 6) in a list that should span over a thousand years! Not all Arabs are descendants of Ishmael. Some Arabs probably are descendants of Ishmael, but it is hard to say who they are since: There were no solid records; Genealogical questions were answered by consulting an idol; Islam�s own sources claim that Ishmael�s descendants were scattered. Muhammad needed to claim a revelation to justify himself being a descendant of Mudar; There exists no clear link between Mudar and Ishmael. Narrated Ibn Abbas: The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers: |
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