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    Posted: 23 November 2005 at 9:58am

Originally posted by pinoy pinoy wrote:

Because Muslim Friend, Christianity really has a hold of me in terms of religious faith. Now my faith is being tested at the same time by God to decide to stay as a Christian or convert to be a Muslim. I am at a stage in my life that is very complicated (I'm only a teen).

My dear brother Pinoy, I have two very relevent verses from Quran that I think, seems to address your situation quite reasonably.

Allah says in Quran:

 When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah has sent down." They say: "Nay! We shall follow what we found our fathers following." (Would they do that!) Even though their fathers did not understand anything nor were they guided?  (Chapter #2, Verse #170)

The second one is more direct, when Allah says in Quran:

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "O people of the Scripture (Jews and christians): Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah. Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims."  (Chapter #3, Verse #64)

It is this sense, that I always call my Christian brothers to collectively offer prayer to our one God, the one and only the same God to whom Jesus also used to pray (according to NT Bible). May God accept our sincere efforts to find the path to Him alone. Amen.

 

 

 

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Originally posted by s0meguy s0meguy wrote:

Thanks, everyone including Angela from the other thread. You've convinced me and I'll read the book at next opportunity. I was planning to do this anyway. If I am convinced I'll come back and tell about my experience, whether you want to hear it or not :).

hey wher is s0meguy??? n did he read the Quran....any idea wot happened after that ???

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Inshallah

O Allah! Bless Muhammad and let his be the place close to you on the day of Resurrection.
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Originally posted by Pinoy Pinoy wrote:

Salaam,
I also believed to hold on to my faith because if I remember correctly in the Bible, Saint Paul told us to accept God's teachings the way it was already first taught to us in the beginning.

For someone who is young and says they are confused you're pretty smart.

Until you find the answers then please do as the other Sister asked and do not pray to Jesus, the Virgin Mary, or any of the saints. This is a huge sin. If you do as you say in the quote and follow the bible as it was first taught in the beginning, The Old Testament, then you will be following Christianity that is closer to Islam. In the Old Testament God says that you shall have no Gods before Me, and you shall worship none other than Me. None meaning anything or one other than the ONE God.

May Allah help you in your search for the truth.

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Salaam,

Thank you so much for the words of wisdom, I truly did needed it especially on this complicated stage in my life. To answer Mimish's question, you have already answered it... You see I believed in faith in God through Christianity despite of it being wrapped in mystery and being illogical. I also believed to hold on to my faith because if I remember correctly in the Bible, Saint Paul told us to accept God's teachings the way it was already first taught to us in the beginning. Though I know the Bible itself has been questioned to be "tampered" and "corrupted" through the ages, it still has a lot of good values and similarities I find in the Quran (though I have yet to finish it). My father (a person full of kindness and wisdom), found love in God through Christianity and taught me things on how to be a good Christian. But my moral character has been somewhat altered due to the fact that the religion I had so much faith in, so much love in, has come to the point in realizing it might have been for nothing...for it had a lot of false beliefs (so they say).. I now find it difficult trusting my own religion everytime I go to mass on sundays or pass by a church (I am a Catholic by the way). I pray so much to God for truth to prevail in these  deceitful times. Thank you and may God guide us in everything that we do. Allahu Akbar!


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Dear Pinoy,

May God Help you. Be patient and simply pray to the one and only true God to guide you to the right path and to give you the strength to face your fears. Having understood Islam and knowing that it is the only true religion, I request you one simple thing - Please stop praying to Jesus - Pray to the only true God. This is what Jesus (PBUH) wants from you. Yes, continue to love Jesus and follow his true teachings which were the same as those taught by all other prophets including our beloved prophet Muhammed (PBUH)



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Originally posted by Pinoy Pinoy wrote:

Originally posted by Muslim Friend Muslim Friend wrote:

Pinoy, can i just ask if you feel your true calling is islam, then why do you feel that just because you were born to a certain religion, you need to die that way aswell??


Because Muslim Friend, Christianity really has a hold of me in terms of religious faith. Now my faith is being tested at the same time by God to decide to stay as a Christian or convert to be a Muslim. I am at a stage in my life that is very complicated (I'm only a teen).

Pinoy, what is it in the Christian faith that you find has such a hold on you?

When I was a Christian, I found the belief system of Christianity very wrapped in mystery and illogical. That is what first led me to seek knowledge within the different Christian denominations and then without. What I found the most difficult thing to accept in Christianity was the notion of blind faith. Faith should never be blind because then we are giving up our God given right, actually responsibility, to freedom of choice. I think Allah created us to be logical beings, to seek truth in all forms, and to use our intelligence in deciding the TRUTH.

In Christianity we are told that if we question then we have no faith, we just have to believe. That alone did not make any sense to me. Why are we given the ability to reason if we're not supposed to use it?

Here in the States there was a show on last week about the rise of Evangelical Christians in this country. Something that one of the preachers said was very shocking to me, yet it is how most Christians believe. He said: (It is not our place to make Christians feel guilty about their sins. Jesus has already taken care of all of that. He has taken away the guilt. It's my job to save their souls...)        Maybe I'm crazy, but isn't part of believing in God and Heaven or Paradise, the fact that we are responsible for our sins and should feel guilty? Otherwise what's the point?  How can you save someone's soul if you are teaching them that they need have no guilt or fear of sin cuz that's all been taken care of? As logical people we know this cannot be true. Even in this messed up worldly system, people are responsible for their own actions and must suffer the consequences. If a child disobeys his parents, he is punished. If an adult commits a crime, they are punished. Are Allah's laws less than that of man's? Did Allah send so many Messengers and Prophets into the world to guide mankind to the correct path if it really didn't matter in the end because it was already taken care of?

It sounds as if you are at a very important crossroads right now and you should search deeply into your heart to realize if you truly believe what you have learned from Christianity or if you seek something more.

 



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Originally posted by Muslim Friend Muslim Friend wrote:

Pinoy, can i just ask if you feel your true calling is islam, then why do you feel that just because you were born to a certain religion, you need to die that way aswell??


Because Muslim Friend, Christianity really has a hold of me in terms of religious faith. Now my faith is being tested at the same time by God to decide to stay as a Christian or convert to be a Muslim. I am at a stage in my life that is very complicated (I'm only a teen).
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