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    Posted: 07 December 2012 at 11:21pm

Those facts can only be from the Torah and the Qur'an. For example what you said is in Qur'an 19:59; Then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have given up As-Salat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salat (prayers) to be lost; either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fixed times] and have followed lusts. So they will be thrown in Hell."
Read ISBN 146807044 for proof. Muhammad can never tell a lie or say something that is not happening! But people like Abu Loren prefer to deny instead of to learn, seek forgiveness and be far from Hell!

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Unfortunately, all of the right people were alone at first in the history of this world .for example :our prophets and �

But after a period of time their lovers and friends were more than image of their enemies.

  

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I tried my best not to get involved in this discussion but I have to send a post.
The answer to this Palestinian-Israeli conflict is not solved by reciting or reading the Qur'an. The Qur'an certainly mentions the reason of the conflict in 21:22; "Had there been therein (in the heavens and the earth [note singular and not plural]) alihah (gods i.e. a system of governance outside the Caliphate [for example the administrations of Joseph, Moses, David etc]sending]) besides Allah (the system of governance like that of Joseph, Moses, David simplified perfected, concluded and accepted by Allah in the teaching of Muhammad) then verily both would have been ruined..." The solution is provided in the exemplary Muhammad's way of life. This the 'Arabs have refused to believe and practice. So there will never be an end to this conflict in the manner Jerusalem suffered attacks and destruction from the hands of the Amelikites. This is because there is only One Allah (G-d) and one Shari'a.

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The fact is that none of the so called civilized world leader has expressed their fairness or even humanity in the Gaza tragedy.
The brutal Israeli behavior and complete disregard for human life in Gaza is nothing new. They have been committing these crimes against unarmed civilians for seven decades now.
I hope at least one Western leader to have the guts to express their outrage at Israeli bahavior and call it for what it is, murder, inhuman, genocide, aparthied.
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Edited by honeto - 06 December 2012 at 1:24pm
The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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and where are all the sensible and sane people?  Where do they stand on this... this call for the people of Gaza to keep dying in the call of this man?  More than willing to sacrifice the people in Gaza.
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Supreme Leader OF IRAN(2012/11/21 - 19:15)

Ayatollah Khamenei said the Zionists' savage attack on the people of Gaza shows the extreme brutality of the leaders of the Zionist regime. He reiterated that America, England and France shamelessly support the massacre of the people of Gaza, further adding: "Islamic countries, especially Arab governments, should reform their behavior in this issue and they should try to make the enemies lift the siege of this region by helping the innocent and brave people of Gaza. The Islamic Ummah should follow the example of the victorious resistance of the people of Gaza and it should realize that resistance is the only way to defeat the enemies of Islam."

The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution said that the brutality of the Zionist attack on the innocent civilians of Gaza should awaken the world of Islam and it should give fresh impetus to the movement of Muslim peoples, further adding: "The shocking brutality of the leaders of the Zionist regime showed that these completely savage creatures have no human qualities.

Ayatollah Khamenei stated: "The crimes of the Zionists in Gaza revealed the true nature of the enemies of the Islamic world and those who challenge the Islamic Republic at international meetings."

His Eminence strongly condemned the efforts by the leaders of global arrogance to support the crimes of the Zionists and reiterated: "America, England and France did not even frown at the brutal Zionist regime. By supporting and encouraging these criminals, they showed how inhumane and immoral the violent enemies of the Islamic Ummah are."

He added: "The leaders of global arrogance, such as the American government which supports the crimes of the brutal Zionists, shamelessly claim that they defend human rights and they put themselves in the position of prosecutors of other peoples and countries."

Ayatollah Khamenei added: "The behavior of Arab and Islamic governments regarding the events of Gaza was not acceptable because some of them only condemned the Zionists in words and some others did not even condemn the Zionists in words."

He stressed: "Those who call Muslim nations to unity and claim to be the leaders of the Islamic Ummah are very outspoken on issues which suit their political agenda, but in this case - because they have to get involved with America and England - they refuse to condemn the Zionists in an outspoken and genuine way or they merely offer verbal support, which is of little value."

The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution referred to the glorious resistance of the people and youth of Gaza, adding: "By Allah's favor, they proved once more that by relying on faith, resistance and diligence it is possible to defeat large and heavily armed groups that are supported by the arrogant powers."

His Eminence said that the Zionist regime is nervously looking for a ceasefire. He reiterated: "Those who started those brutal actions received were harmed more and they are looking for a ceasefire more desperately than the small number of people who live in the Gaza Strip."

Ayatollah Khamenei added that Islamic countries should strengthen their faith and determination and that they should make scientific and technological progress in order to advance in the area of building weapons as well as in other areas.

 

  

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Address by H.E. Dr. Mahmud Ahmadinejad President of the Islamic Republic of Iran before the 65th Session of the United Nations General Assembly

New York 23 September 2010

the occupation of the Palestinian

The oppressed people of Palestine have lived under the rule of an occupying regime for 60 years, been deprived of freedom, security and the right to self-determination, while the occupiers are given recognition. On a daily basis, the houses are being destroyed over the heads of innocent women and children. People are deprived of water, food and medicine in their own homeland. The Zionists have imposed five all-out wars on the neighboring countries and on the Palestinian people.
The Zionists committed the most horrible crimes against the defenseless people in the wars against Lebanon and Gaza.
The Zionist regime attacked a humanitarian flotilla in a blatant defiance of all international norms and kills the civilians.
This regime which enjoys the absolute support of some western countries regularly threatens the countries in the region and continues publicly announced assassination of Palestinian figures and others, while Palestinian defenders and those opposing this regime are pressured, labeled as terrorists and anti Semites. All values, even the freedom of expression, in Europe and in the United States are being sacrificed at the altar of Zionism.
Solutions are doomed to fail because the right of the Palestinian people is not taken into account.
Would we have witnessed such horrendous crimes if instead of recognizing the occupation, the sovereign right of the Palestinian people had been recognized?
Our unambiguous proposition is the return of the Palestinian refugees to their home land and the reference to the vote of the people of Palestine to exercise their sovereignty and decide on the type of governance
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Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:


so if a child is born in a prison, that prison belongs to him/her? That's an interesting logic and belief you present!
Hasan

I'm curious Hasan,
You have said that you live in the United States.  Are you a citizen of the United States?  If so, how did you become a citizen of the United States?
You have children.  Are they citizens of the United States with rights in the land?  How did most immigrants come to be citizens of the countries in which they live?

It is foolishness to live in the past rather than deal with things as they presently are.  The past is past, what's done is done.  The future will not improve unless people are willing to accept the past and move forward from where they now are.  Where would Russia be today if it clung to the past?  Where would Germany be today if it clung to the past and past injustices?  What about Poland, Austria, Vietnam, Korea, Japan?  All those who have endured injustices.
I urge you to try and think with a clear, fair, and open mind.

Salaam,
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