Contrasting Qur'an and Ahadith of Muhammad. - Event Date: 17 November 2012

When observing the dialog here, an article from Mirza B. comes to mind. She is a Muslim from India:

"... We Muslims are a people who are the least self critical of all mankind. We love fooling ourselves. We teach our own history in a way that makes us look good and so effectively prevents us from learning anything useful that we can apply today. ... In almost every Muslim religious discourse worldwide, we hear innumerable stories of heroic military leadership of our illustrious predecessors in the remote past. But I ask myself, how many examples do we hear of educators who established universities? Of business leaders who built economies and industries? Of scientists who gave the world new inventions and discoveries? Of rulers who created models of administration and governance that can be emulated today? ... The first sign of a desire to change is to accept that we have a problem. And that we are its authors. The empowering thing about owning the problem is that you also then own the solution. When we export blame as we are habituated to do, we also export the solution and so the problem remains with us and continues to trouble us. We must accept that we are the cause of our internal differences and strife. If we want to build mutual understanding, nothing and nobody can change that. People can try and they will try but they will never succeed if we don't let them. The coming together of the two Germanys and of the two Vietnams are classic examples. You will be astonished to learn about a recently published book on Christian denominations, each with its own church, theological concept, literature, services and priests. The author counted a total of 33,000. Yes, I have not put too many zeros. There are actually 33,000 Christian denominations. But have you ever seen one denomination bombing another's church? Have you seen the followers of one denomination suicide bombing the followers of another denomination? Have you heard any statement from the Pope calling the Church of England infidel? Occasionally you might hear statements like my church is better than yours. Have you heard a statement from the Presbyterians or the Lutherans or anyone else calling the Catholics infidels?"

Muslims who have different interpretations of Islam should treat each other with respect. Only then can they learn to treat followers of other religions with respect which is the basic for peace on Earth.

Civilizations who don't care what others think are doomed.

What do you mean exactly by 'will not be tolerated' ?

Friendship wrote: Assalamu alaikum. Abu Loren. You said: Secondly, deviants within Islam will not be tolerated, and there are so many of these unfortunately Response: Who is more deviant than the one who performs an act not performed by Muhammad Rasulullah? You said: You thought the Pilgrims are to wear their Ihram on the 8th and go to Mina on the 9th. Where is the place of 'thinking' called 'ra'ay' in the Sunna of Muhammad Rasulullah? Have you forgotten this hadith: Who ever attributes something I did not say, let him find his place in hellfire. Go back to school and learn before it is too late! Islam and hence following the Sunna is not by decoration or assumption. Friendship.

Friendship wrote: Assalamu alaikum. Abu Loreen said: Why don't you tell us instead keep asking st**id questions? Implication: This means that it is st**id to ask questions on what Muhammad preached. Note that, if Allah had wanted spoon feeding in Islam, angel Gabriel could not have pressed on Muhammad to read. You will be held account for whatever you utter, conceive and act. What will be your response in the hereafter when Allah will ask you: Read your book. You are enough to account on yourself. Just tell the forum that you are ignorant and stop saying on what you do not know about Muhammad. I am against arguing with the People of the Book because that is not part of the teaching of Muhammad. I participate out of respect of the Torah and the New Testament, but it is turned into ridiculing and jesting.  You said: We are wrong then we will check against what is available from the Holy Qur'and and the Hadiths of the Prophet (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). Response: But I am asking you to produce your evidence from the Qur'an and the hadith that the 9th of Zulhajj is the day of Arafat. Why not do it? Why should I tell you when the book you are advised to read is rubbish? You are wrong in virtually whatever you are doing, except pronouncing the Shahada. Friendship.