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    Posted: 29 September 2005 at 1:02pm


Asalam Aalaikum,

Should Pakistan accept Isreal or not? this is a very important question and a hot topic of this time.

The recent interaction of General Pervaiz Musharaf with the Isreali Minister in USA created several questions in the minds of people regarding the relationship between Isreal and Pakistan.

From the time ,Pakistan came into existance in 1947 till now, Pakistan doesnot accept the existance of Isreal ,but now it seems as if General Pervaiz is going to accept Isreal.

If Pakistan accepts Isreal, will this new development have any impact on the foreign policies of Pakistan?

How do you view this new development?

Lets discuss this subject and active participation in this discussion will be deeply appreciated.

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think there is good and bad in every country and every religion.

i don`t think it`s right though to demonize a whole country because of its very dodgy government and there terrible treatment of the palestinians.

there is a peace movement in isreal that has ties with its so called enemies.

hopefully one day, it will be the people who sort out the mess, because i can never see the politicians ever getting there heads together and finding a solution.

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You mention the 'terrible treatment' of Palestinians...

What about the 2 million Palestinian Israelis?  Are they part of your analysis?

I agree with you that there is good and bad in every place and in every people.  This truth applies to Palestinians and Israelis...so let's accept it as such and move forward.

As to Pakistan and other nations - the Jews are 'people of the Book' and the Prophet Mohammed directed Muslims to respect the people of the Book.  Of course the issue of Palestinian statehood lingers and the Palestinian people have much progress to attain and much to say about that...and I'm hopeful soon the lobbing back and forth of explosives between Palestinians and Israelis will decrease and cease as people get their senses about what's best not for themselves, but thier own children...

Who doesn't want their children to walk in fields of daisies and breathe the fresh air of child hood without the stench of death and war and revenge constantly hanging in the air? 

Who wouldn't want that?


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Pakistan took a step ever been since after existance of Israil to formal contact with Israil at proper time, when Israil leaving away the gaza & also planned the finish the west bank occuptation, this was the message for Israil that if they will have take forward to resolve the plestine issue as Plastenian demand. If Israil solve the Plastinian issue then Pakistan & other muslim countries will be no hesitation to recognize the Israil as a state.
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"If Israil solve the Plastinian issue then Pakistan & other muslim countries will be no hesitation to recognize the Israil as a state."

Is it up to Israel alone to solve the issue?  What can Palestinians also do to encourage the peace?  How 'bout quit lobbing missiles into Israel and how 'bout Israel quit doing the same?  That would help immensely...
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I think, Pakistan should look more objectively to the ground reality within the frame work of UNs than in isolation. If Israel don't abide by its commitments done or asked by UN, there is little reason for it being recognised by anyone lest by Pakistan alone. Other than that, I think developing good relations must be the moto of Pakistan with all countries of this world to promote peace, be it Israel or India for that matter.   
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If Israel don't abide by its commitments done or asked by UN,

Brother, absolutely.

And, as you may know, there is now a very strong intellectual camp within Israel that doesn't accept the present Israeli Aparthied government and its inhuman policies.

They also believe that there will be no peace in the Middle East as long as the Anglo-Americans have a hand in it. I have grown to agree with them in totality. You can always smell the typical Amreeki response to this problem, they always end up blaming the victims of attrocities. Only because it suits their national interest.



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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

If Israel don't abide by its commitments done or asked by UN,

Brother, absolutely.

And, as you may know, there is now a very strong intellectual camp within Israel that doesn't accept the present Israeli Aparthied government and its inhuman policies.

They also believe that there will be no peace in the Middle East as long as the Anglo-Americans have a hand in it. I have grown to agree with them in totality. You can always smell the typical Amreeki response to this problem, they always end up blaming the victims of attrocities. Only because it suits their national interest.



Such strong language from our communist humanist poster..do we trust him to bring unity and to help 'solve' anything?  To bring anything constructive to the table...or will he smile and shake hands while promoting dogma that has taken millions of lives and snuffed them out?

"the victims of attrocities"

Ah, I see, when Palestinians target Israeli children, women or innocent men, the Palestinians are the victims?  How does that work Sasha?  Whatever position you oppose cannot possibly be classified as having victims in these disputes?  That's absurd.  Why don't you try or at least feign to be objective?

Israeli Aparthied government

Why would the Israelis grant full citizenship to 2 million Palestinians if their basic dogma is as you speciously assert above there?
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