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    Posted: 17 November 2012 at 10:48am
Originally posted by Salaam_Erin Salaam_Erin wrote:

Forgive me for finding this thread amusing.  Seems a lot of guys are exasperated with each other. ;o) 

Though I will take up some things.  Abu thinks that Christians have to be told the same points again and again and again and say the same thing and ask the same st**id questions all over again. 

However, what I find is that the difficulty is that you can't even seem to get to grips with what we are saying to you, and make the wrong definitions.  The classic one is when you say God is One and we say 3.  We don't say three, we say One like you do.  The whole 3 issue is to do with what is going on within this One God, and nothing to do with how many gods there are.  And why do you think we don't think Jesus was a mighty Messenger and Messiah? Jesus was indeed a mighty Messenger of the Father.  He is King of Israel= Messiah.  Sounds like people are talking at each other rather than to each other.  ;o)


 
You are forgiven.
 
It's true that members here keep coming back with the same questions that were answered previously, it's like it wasn't registered in their collective brains. Very frustrating.
 
I don't make the wrong definitions. I was simply saying that God Alimighty Himself has told us that there is only One God. An intelligent man like you must realise by now that the Trinity doctrine was invented at the infancy of Chritianity. You can believe in an egg (shell, egg & yoke) but a 3 in 1 God doesn't make sense to me I'm afraid. May be I am a simpleton but One God who nobody has seen nor can comprehend makes sense to me than a God who goes by 3 different disguises. I asked earlier, why would God Almighty need 3 different personalities? Is God a schizophrenic?
 
At least we can agree that Jesus (pbuh) was amighty messenger and the Messiah, so why can't we stop it there? Do we need to take that further and make him a part-deity?
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Forgive me for finding this thread amusing.  Seems a lot of guys are exasperated with each other. ;o) 

Though I will take up some things.  Abu thinks that Christians have to be told the same points again and again and again and say the same thing and ask the same st**id questions all over again. 

However, what I find is that the difficulty is that you can't even seem to get to grips with what we are saying to you, and make the wrong definitions.  The classic one is when you say God is One and we say 3.  We don't say three, we say One like you do.  The whole 3 issue is to do with what is going on within this One God, and nothing to do with how many gods there are.  And why do you think we don't think Jesus was a mighty Messenger and Messiah? Jesus was indeed a mighty Messenger of the Father.  He is King of Israel= Messiah.  Sounds like people are talking at each other rather than to each other.  ;o)
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Mistake no.5 again. ha ha ha. keep on going.
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Originally posted by Ghazzali Ghazzali wrote:

Mistake no.5 Mr.Larry. Ha ha ha. Got you. Right on.



Hey Ghazzali, Grow up. Your Pal, Larry
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

When I saw the title of the thread today I saw the problem staring glaringly in the face...
I thought 'Why not just start talking with Christians then, instead of debating?'
Why must everything be a debate?
 
Missed your input on this forum for a couple of days, hope you are ok :)
 
We must debate because of the difference of opinion that we have about religion, way of life and ultimately God. We will say there is only One God and you will say 3. We will say Jesus (pbuh) is a mighty messenger and Messiah and you will say not he is god.
 
So as you can see we cannot simply talk over a cup of tea but we must continue to debate until all Christians sumit to the Will of God Almighty and become muslims.


"We will say there is only One God and you will say 3. "

*sigh
(emulating the response of someone else on this forum)

But yes, thank you Abu Loren, I am well.

Salaam,
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Mistake no.5 Mr.Larry. Ha ha ha. Got you. Right on.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:


Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

When I saw the title of the thread today I saw the problem staring glaringly in the face...I thought 'Why not just start talking with Christians then, instead of debating?'Why must everything be a debate?

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Missed your input on this forum for a couple of days, hope you are ok :)
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We must debate because of the difference of opinion that we have about religion, way of life and ultimately God. We aill say there is only One God and you will say 3. We will say Jesus (pbuh) is a mighty messenger and Messiah and you will say not he is god.
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So as you can see we cannot simply talk over a cup of tea but we must continue to debate ******until all Christians sumit to the Will of God Almighty and become muslims******.


Now we see "Abu Loren's" real agenda behind the "debate." This is not a discussion, it is a thinly-disguised attack on Christianity itself. So much for "interfaith dialogue."

Edited by Larry - 07 November 2012 at 11:10pm
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