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m.sumair
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@Nothing, i agree to ur post except that I 'wish' Muslims get beyond this Sunni Shia thing and be a one parctising Muslim.(anyways...just speaking my mind)
The ME attitude of Muslims and weak parctice of Islam make us vulnerable to the attacks on our identity. Thats what I said in my first post "Where are 'WE' ?" Why we lack in We attitude when we are Muslims. Who are We? we say, we are Muslims but still find hard to pull it together. Edited by m.sumair - 24 September 2012 at 10:10pm |
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abuayisha
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-zunes/california-state-assembly_b_1842841.html
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m.sumair
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@Ron, Lol..I object or not object :) the point is You cannot do this against jews. The Restriction is on, and to be frankly i want the same Restriction on this side.. I hope that u undestand or.. Do u get more confused ??
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nothing
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There is no leadership in the Sunni camp, and in this camp each group has king on their own with the appetite of publicity and recognition. And each king will never go down no matter what happen. The Shiah which has a leader seems working much better, where adventurism by mini kings refrained.
You know from my experience, the willingness to give for others is the starting point of solid community. If you have seen in the hajj where the muslims who are supposedly in the top end of spiritual journey pushing each other to pray in the front row, and hijacking other people bus and tent is good enough information for me that many of us are very selfish people. It is the ME first before everything is the opposite of this teaching below here, thats why I can savely say that the muslims in general don't know what Islam is, let alone the non muslims: Therefor have I warned you of the flaming Fire (92:14) Which only the most wretched must endure, (92:15) He who denieth and turneth away. (92:16) Far removed from it will be the righteous (92:17) Who giveth his wealth that he may grow (in goodness). (92:18) And none hath with him any favour for reward, (92:19) |
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Ron Webb
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you in favour of free speech, or not? You seem to object to restrictions on criticism of the Jews in Palestine, or in discussing the Holocaust, and yet you advocate similar restrictions when it comes to criticism of Islam.
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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m.sumair
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:) You found many things to be offensive of prophet Muhammad...but than have u studied the life of Muhammad or have u heard about it by someone or somewhere bcoz hearing things means it could be out of context, personal opinion or it could be personal vandal.
Well talking about freedom and right of speech, I don't find it completely excriseble. You can talk about Islam either way.. fine, but than can you compose poetry or other literature against the atrocites of Jews in Palastian and than 'stay free' afterwards. Can you discuss Holocaust and go free. (a genocide ! I agree) They can ban you, restrict you, bcoz they can do it. They are in power, they rule banks and major economy..you can't speak against their feelings, and go free. But u can certainly do this against Islam, u suddenly remember all ur rights to be exercised. FREEDOM of Speech.. AmaZing.. Edited by m.sumair - 23 September 2012 at 12:06am |
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Ron Webb
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Keeping a distance from extremism, both physically and rhetorically, does help. The participation of thousands of "mainstream" Muslims in the protest outside the embassy provided crucial "cover" for the attack by a relatively small number of extremists. If the moderates had simply stayed home, the result might have been different. At least, it would have been clear that the extremists represented only a small minority of Muslims.
As is their right. Again, if you have the right to say what you want about Muhammad, then so do we. Frankly, I find many things that Muhammad said and did to be offensive; but I would never seek a law preventing you from repeating them, Publicly. Edited by Ron Webb - 22 September 2012 at 10:30pm |
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m.sumair
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...Asking UN to pass a Law is not just our terms. It is not the first time that the prophet personality is being humiliated. Lately, prophet Moses and prophet Jesus (may God have peace upon them) have been a subjuct of such mockery. People who hate religion are doing whatever they please, Publicly. My point is, freedom of speech is good but than each freedom come with limits.
Belief in different Religions, or not believing at all, is debatable. But making out mockery of any belief, is tripping over the line. One may disscus his belief/concern in a moral and ethical ways, but this is not even near to morality. If UN passes the Law to stop such actions than it will be for all Religions. Islam is not the first to get mocked. They have been doing this for sometimes, now (whoever they are). Peace would come from mutual harmony, and things that distorts mutual harmony should be rectify. So the Laws shall be made and actions should be taken to rectify such things. |
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