Did God turn his back on Israel and Islam?

Assalamu alaika Kish.

I do not know at what point it is rational experiential you comment on the Qur'an as explained by the companions of the holy apostle. I read the Bible and its commentary by Rev. Matthew Henry. When I comment I quote him.
My appeal is for those in the West to understand that not every follower of Muhammad understand the explanations of the Qur'an given by the companions of Muhammad and their students. The West must respect and  listen to those who know and can give references. As to your sayings:
Fact: The Quran does not mention that Ishmael was the child to be sacrificed. 
Fact: The principal translator and interpreter of the Qur'an is Muhammad. You do not have such books. If you have and denied, then it is unfair to hide your denial. Muhammad mentioned Ishmael.

Fact: the Quran points more towards Isaac as the child that was to be offered as a sacrifice.
The truth. That is your interpretation that cannot be supported by logical threads in the Bible.

Fact: Isaac was the 'only son' of Abraham by his wife Sarah who God made the promise to, Hagar was not around.

The truth: The Bible is clear on the where about of Ishmael when Isaac was born 16 years later.

There would be no reason for a commemoration at all, it would be to an unknown god!

The truth. You have no justification in judging on what you do not believe.


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Quran points more towards Isaac as the child that was to be offered as a sacrifice.

Fact: Isaac was the 'only son' of Abraham by his wife Sarah who God made the promise to, Hagar was not around.

There would be no reason for a commemoration at all, it would be to an unknown god!

Assalamu alaika Kish.
 
The followers of Muhammad Rasulullah commemorate the sacrifice every year in the very place the sacrifice was to be offered. This place is in Mina some 8 kilometers away from Makka. What do you do to commemorate that?

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Kish wrote: caringheart wrote: So does this mean God turned His back on them? Them as in who, Israel and Islam or neither one? God has kept his promise that they become a mighty nation. However, his covenant was broken. It was only if they kept his covenant that he would continue to be with them as a nation.

Hi Kish,

How many times did God say;
"I will never leave you, nor forsake you"

I am saying that it is not God who turns His back on any of His creation...
He is always inviting us to come to Him.

It is people who turn their back on God, and cause their own selves to lose His blessings.

God will never turn His back.
"Knock and the door will open, seek and you will find, ask and you will be given"

God will allow things to befall us though, when we turn our backs on Him.  He will not intervene if we are not seeking Him.

But He doesn't turn His back, does He?
Isn't He always waiting there with open arms 'if we will but turn and seek His face'?

Blessings to you,
Caringheart

⁴⁴ And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the Lord their God.

⁴⁵ But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.

Edited by Caringheart - 28 January 2013 at 10:21am

I have just gone back and read the opening of this thread and I would say this;

the people of Israel turned their backs of God... or some of them did... I would certainly say there are those today who either, never lost their way, or found their way back.
and the people of Ishmael obviously forgot God as well, since they established the Kabba and idol worship... but then there were those who chose to follow Muhammad and believe in the one God again.

So does this mean God turned His back on them?

There are people in all faiths that have turned their back on God, but has God turned His back on them, or does God still invite His lost children to come to Him?  Does God wish for any of His creation to be lost, or does He offer every hope and every chance of salvation?