Hijab - Freedom NOT Oppression : Opinion

lady wrote: [   I really think that  is why you hear comments made against hijabis and niqaabis from people like Matt Browne and from Caringheart.

Did a make a comment against hijabis and niqaabis?

I don't believe I did.  Indeed when I see women wearing the veil (not the one that covers the whole face) I am reminded of the blessed mother of Jesus and the beauty of purity and innocence.  Indeed the women(the nuns) of the Catholic church still cover this way.

I agree with modesty.  I thought that was what I said.
I agree with Abu Loren, except about the racist comment.
Like I said, Is it racist to make me wear a veil in an Islamic country, or is it just abiding according to their culture.
I actually think it is lovely to see the women who wear head coverings.  I miss the days when Christian women used to wear head coverings to go to church.  I just know that I could not stand to have to cover my head every time I went out in public, especially in the heat, and I would hate it if something bad could happen to me because I did not cover my head or I happened to allow a bit of hair to show.  Is this what God created?  Didn't God create Adam and Eve, naked in the garden?  Did God make women beautiful so that it must be hidden?  I do not agree that women should cover their face.  That to me is dehumanizing... making them as if non-existent in the world.

I agree it is not good to cause lust.  That is something I believe God does not want.   We must be considerate of our brothers.   Indeed I am instructed;
'Do not do that which would cause offense to a brother, or that which might cause a brother to stumble.'

One person�s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, ... eats only vegetables.   3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt  the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else�s servant?  To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God�s judgment seat.
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.
13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat[or do]*, you are no longer acting in love.
19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.  20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food.  All food is clean,  but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.   21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves.


23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's well-being.
(from the Christian Bible) *I added [or do]

A good deal of what is wrong in the world might be improved by the behavior of women, but a good deal must be improved by the men. 
After all, the start of immodesty began with the lure of the prostitute, did it not?  When men are 'drawn away by their lust'?  Women are now competing with the behavior of the prostitute in order to draw a man.
Or did it start when the men began to travel the world and landed on beaches, and in far away places, where the women were unclothed(as in Africa), or scantily clothed because of the warm climates(as in the island places?  Where others dressed according to their culture.

I'm afraid that change has to come from the minds of the men and what they allow their minds to focus on.
Still, we women could help those men who want to be men of God, by dressing appropriately and by being women of virtue.

But a man must first desire a woman of virtue.


Edited by Caringheart - 26 July 2012 at 12:30pm

lady wrote:       If I tell anyone that I have earrings on under my hijab or if a nonmuslim women see my hair at MY HOUSE then she will ALWAYS say, "why you have.....hair or wear earrings since you can not show it to people."  Wallahi. I always smile because this reassure me that they are mainly naked because they like to show their body to men (and maybe to women too).

One hour of sunshine is enough for vitamin D.  Sitting near a window where the sun comes through is another way of getting enough of sun.   Drinking almond milk can also help.

yes, Nausheen, I heard that it is not good to show nonmuslims your beauty as well. When I heard this, it was more to the fact that they may accidently reveal it loosely to others,since keeping this a secret is not one of their highest priority.

Matt Browne wrote: Sitting near a window to get vitamin D? UVB radiation does not penetrate glass.

Thanks Matt for answering a question that I've had.  I had wondered if I could get my vitamin D when I am sitting in the sunshine by a window.  I need to get 10 minutes a day for my health.