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And I forgot to add, Muslims treated their slaves a lot more better than others and slaves were eventually assimillated into the mainstream. There was a dynasty of Muslim kings who were descendents of slaves, called the Slave dynasty, who ruled over India for almost a century.
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Originally posted by Muslim Friend Muslim Friend wrote:

Conservative Muslims here won't like their children to marry even those Muslims who live here but have adopted Western culture or  Indian Muslims who have settled in the West.

!  - what have you got to prove this point??!!

Discrimination based on culture is not racially motivated. People from the Indian sub-continent discriminate against people belonging to their own race, if they too have adopted the evil Western culture.

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Brother Candor:

Where in India have they NOT adopted the "evil Western culture"? Everywhere in India the signs are in English as well as the native language. Men are wearing Western attire, as are some women, Bollywood is thriving, and American companies are relocating for the cheaper labor. Even you are posting on a chat room that is based in the United Kingdom.

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Originally posted by Mishmish Mishmish wrote:

Brother Candor:

Where in India have they NOT adopted the "evil Western culture"? Everywhere in India the signs are in English as well as the native language. Men are wearing Western attire, as are some women, Bollywood is thriving, and American companies are relocating for the cheaper labor. Even you are posting on a chat room that is based in the United Kingdom.

I doubt if you have ever come to India. But if you did, you have probably visited some metropolitan city. Usage of English language is the legacy of British coloniol rule, that was imposed on India. It has nothing to do with adopting Western culture.

And yes, people have been affected by the Western culture, but only marginally, not much, i.e., to the extent that most men wear Western dresses. Very few people have adopted Western culture fully. Working for american company does not mean adopting Western culture.  

I came to know about this site through IC. And I came across IC while I was searching about Islam on the Internet through google.



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And yes, Muslims are more reluctant to adopt Western culture, compared to non-Muslims.

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Originally posted by candor candor wrote:

I doubt if you have ever come to India. But if you did, you have probably visited some metropolitan city. Usage of English language is the legacy of British coloniol rule, that was imposed on India. It has nothing to do with adopting Western culture.

I will agree with you on this.

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One of the things that saddens me about humanity is that none of us really see the value of  each other's culture. We are taught from birth that our culture, our language and pride resides within our own people and we must keep such a chain alive by not intermixing. This was the thought of the early Jews in the Bible actually when they were taken out of Egypt. Similar we see the same philosophies carried on today. Ignorance knows no religion. We teach ourselves as well as our children that it is ok to judge base on cultural preference and hide it behind the term, "individual preference."

This is not some attempt to say "I'm hurt from my experience" but in actuality to show that even when we profess faith in the values of the Qur'an that we are still blinded by our own internal ignorances. We can perhaps take example from the various birds of earth. I'm confident that their language isn't about culture or what birds looks like whom, but the survival of the species. I have seen through experiments birds of different breeds mate with other birds etc without reluctance of any kind. Point? Point here is that we must think along the lines of being a species rather along the lines of wherther or not culture survives.

I believe that culture of any kind survives so long as that individual survives and one can be taught the beauty of that culture through the ambition to teach. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only human that actually thinks this. Actually, I truly believe that it will take on catestrophic event to bring us all together and to go beyond the lines of culture. I'm pretty sure this event will come soon.

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Originally posted by israfil israfil wrote:

"birds of different breeds mate with other birds"


how'd the babies look like?    i guess interracial marriege can breed gorgeous children. still in every marriege, even intraracial, it's Allah who puts the love in our hearts. so anything can happen.

And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge. [Quran, 30:22]

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (one who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). [Quran, 49:13]


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