Are supporters ofextremists true Muslims?

B950000 you have to be joking.... How many types of Muslims
have you encountered here alone on this website? obviously
this website alone you've probably encountered different
Muslims with different views some conflicting against each
other. In light of that how can you raise that question when us
Muslims are divided on various issues one on "being a true
Muslim" is one of them. If you need an answer it is no. Killing is
wrong especially of innocence and a great sin against God
plain and simple b95000 you need a more difficult question
than that.

I'm actually quite surprised since you have encountered some
of my ideas as well as others who have shown much
compassion in their sayings. Those who show compassion and
kindness towards others are obviously those who at least to the
extend of kindness and sincerity of faith are true Muslims.
Common Sense!

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Israfil wrote: B950000 you have to be joking.... How many types of Muslims have you encountered here alone on this website? obviously this website alone you've probably encountered different Muslims with different views some conflicting against each other. In light of that how can you raise that question when us Muslims are divided on various issues one on "being a true Muslim" is one of them. If you need an answer it is no. Killing is wrong especially of innocence and a great sin against God plain and simple b95000 you need a more difficult question than that. I'm actually quite surprised since you have encountered some of my ideas as well as others who have shown much compassion in their sayings. Those who show compassion and kindness towards others are obviously those who at least to the extend of kindness and sincerity of faith are true Muslims. Common Sense!

"If you need an answer it is no."

This may indeed be common sense for most of us Israfil, but according to poll numbers 6% of Mulsims IN GREAT BRITAIN thought that what was done there to kill Brits (including other Muslims no doubt) was justified.  How can this be?  How can that many people (that represents something like 100,000 Muslims in Great Britain, think this way? 

Here's a follow up question: Can a so-called Muslim who supports terror murders of innocent people, even if he/she is not willing to actually do so themselves, a true Muslim?

Look my point is not to ask endless questions, it is rather to open the dialogue into this area - how can true believers oppose the actions of obvious infidels (I'm calling the terror killers infidels) who seek to wreak acts of treachory and attribute them to our great faiths?  I can say the same for anyone that would try to take Christianity hostage to some killing escapade - no matter who it is..

Your answer may be obvious Israfil.  But for those 6% or whatever the numbers are in the Middle East proper, that answer must be shouted from the rooftops:

"We faithful Muslims, say that if you are killing innocents, you are NOT A (TRUE) MUSLIM."

Israfil wrote: B...The Muslims whom you may cite in the poll are perhaps judgemental based on emotion. True if there is a sense of isolation in the society those of the people whom are isolated will feel a sense of emotional despair and eventually hatred. This is not justified in taking the lives of others but you have to understand that certain Muslims in those countries are clouded by their own rage and hatred. Its easy to act out in emotion but not to talk. Unfortunately those who may support the taking of innocent lives be it Muslim Jew Sikh Muslims whatever obviously overlook the very essential essence of the Quranic peace which is that all of life is sacred and must be cherished.

Can such a one, with such prevailing emotions over reason, emotions over respect and honor for the Qur'an, Allah and the way of Islam, be truly Muslim?  That's my point in all this.  I know there are many people who call themselves Christians but by their immoral, unspiritual, materialistically focused lives, they prove they are not true Christians.  They need to be confronted with the truth.  So do these so-called Muslims that indirectly or directly support the idea of terrorism - because on its face it sounds good to confront the US, Israel, the West, the Crusaders or the great Satan...add to this the plight of their daily lives...but these things...NONE OF THEM...is ever any excuse to kill innocent people...not to mention CHILDREN...how have we come to this point, when people, masses of people - 100,000 Muslims, so called, in Britain can support such heinous atrocities?

At times one needs to call a spade, a spade.  By contending with the authenticity of the faith of the terror killers, AND, and this is key, AND of those who overtly or indirectly support the idea of terror killing (even for emotional reasons) you take out the theological underpinnings and authority that this group (too large for comfort's sake) currently enjoys.


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