Muslim Women and 'Canadian Values'

m.sumair wrote: either there r practsng muslims or non-practsng ones. Who r these moderate ones?  

My apologies Reepicheep u mistook my writings. I didnt mean to offend u or anybody. I asked who r moderate ones?irrespective of any people or belief. And my immediate next post in whch i "asked" tht Wht MCC is all about..is ths wht thy do? Ths is how moderate ones are?
I asked u who the moderate ones are bcoz u conitinously mention it in ur pervious post(plz refer it bck) so i was curious whch moderate ones u r reffrng to...and my humble request im nt here givng any judgement or statements, these are only for ALLAH to do neither im considerng my deeds to anyone I knw wht mess im in...so my friend stay calm, go thourgh various post and thn consider,.. whom ur refrng as moderate?

Interesting post, Reepicheep. So are you saying that the Shiites who established the totalitarian theocracy in Iran are the exception? And it would mean that moderate Sunni countries like Jordan and Turkey are the exception? I was always under the impression that both forms of Islam have moderate and ultra-conservative forces.

I think it's a mistake to assume that

moderate Muslims = non-practicing Muslims

conservative Muslims = practicing Muslims

So what is the difference between moderate and conservative?

The answer is complex and there are also different forms of moderate or liberal Islam. This is how I understand it, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Moderate Muslims believe in an evolving Islam meaning that a new context requires a reevaluation of common interpretations of the Quran. Conservative Islam rely on a fixed mindset with all rules and interpretations frozen on the 7th century level not to be changed.

Moderate Muslims focus on spiritual Islam and see political Islam as one opinion in a democracy where majority rulings are the law. They also believe in the separation of state and religion. Conservative Muslims often challenge this view.

To moderate Muslims the place of women in Islam, traditional gender roles in Islam and Islamic feminism are likewise major issues. For this reason, liberal Muslims are often critical of traditional Islamic law interpretations which allow polygyny for men but not polyandry for women, as well as the traditional Islamic law of inheritance under which daughters receive less than sons. It is also accepted by most liberal Muslims that a woman may lead the state, and that women should not be segregated from men in society.

Tolerance is another key tenet of moderate Muslims, who are generally open to interfaith dialogue and conflict resolution with such communities as Jews, Christians, Hindus, and the numerous factions within Islam.

Wikipedia lists the following moderate Muslim intellectuals who focused on religious reform: Sayyid al-Qimni, Nasr Abu Zayd, Abdolkarim Soroush, Mohammed Arkoun, Mohammed Shahrour, Ahmed Subhy Mansour, Edip Yuksel, Gamal al-Banna, Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na'im, Ahmed Al-Gubbanchi, Mahmoud Mohammed Taha, and Faraj Foda, the last two were killed after apostasy claims which most of them have been accused of by traditional Islamic scholars.