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Kish
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iec786 & honeto, just like their are no original Quran their are no original Bible. Like the Quran their are textual variations due to human error, especially since the Bible is a much, much older book than the Quran.
In any event, Muslims are unable to prove what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote were not true, even with the minor textual errors. They all knew him to be the son of God and that he was crucified and resurrected to heaven. When Muslims talk about errors you never show and prove that what the Apostles taught ABOUT Jesus was wrong. However, everything Muslims believe about Jesus in no where to be found in the Bible so it is only Muhammad version of the Gospel since no one else can confirm or verify what Muhammad said to be true. Not even his closes companions because there was no one else with him in the cave when he recited. Until Muslims can come up with another Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to compare it against the one we have what you have to say is conjectural, full of accusations and your own opinions. Which means the un-corrupted Gospel we have today is no different than the one during the time of Muhammad. That is why no one can give a time period when and where this so called corruption took place. Edited by Kish - 04 April 2012 at 9:15pm |
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iec786
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iec786 & honeto, just like their are no original Quran their are no original Bible. Like the Quran their are textual variations due to human error, especially since the Bible is a much, much older book than the Quran.
We have memorised the Quraan it cannot be damaged.like some other books we know of. In any event, Muslims are unable to prove what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote were not true, even with the minor textual errors. Lollll Kish you are a riot.I only want you to read this out loud to yourself Promise me...... 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. When Muslims talk about errors you never show and prove that what the Apostles taught ABOUT Jesus was wrong. http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22932 if you read this book you will know what the Muslim thinks. However, everything Muslims believe about Jesus in no where to be found in the Bible so it is only Muhammad version of the Gospel since no one else can confirm or verify what Muhammad said to be true. Not even his closes companions because there was no one else with him in the cave when he recited. Kish a book the ultimate miracle the Quraan which is memorised by thousands of people that has not changed. However, everything Muslims believe about Jesus in no where to be found in the Bible so it is only Muhammad version of the Gospel since no one else can confirm or verify what Muhammad said to be true. Not even his closes companions because there was no one else with him in the cave when he recited. Kish here is a challenge for you i notice how much you talk of the Quraan let me ask you to give me one false statement from the Quraan about Jesus? Which means the un-corrupted Gospel we have today is no different than the one during the time of Muhammad. That is why no one can give a time period when and where this so called corruption took place. The books of the Old Testament were written from approximately 1400 B.C. to 400 B.C. The books of the New Testament were written from approximately A.D. 40 to A.D. 90. So, anywhere between 3400 to 1900 years have passed since a book of the Bible was written. In this time, the original manuscripts have been lost. They very likely no longer exist. Also during this time, the books of the Bible have been copied again and again. Copies of copies of copies have been made. In view of this, can we still trust the Bible? When God originally inspired men to write His Word, it was God-breathed and inerrant (2 Timothy 3:16-17; John 17:17). The Bible nowhere applies this to copies of the original manuscripts. As meticulous as scribes were with the replication of the Scriptures, no one is perfect. As a result, minor differences arose in the various copies of the Scriptures. Of all of the thousands of Greek and Hebrew manuscripts that are in existence, no two were identical until the printing press was invented in the A.D. 1500s. KISH,LAA-ILAHA-ILLALLAH MUHAMADUR RASOOLULAH. |
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honeto
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Kish,
we all have seen evidence presented all over this forum that points out to errors of the Bible. Whether its geneologies of Jesus which shows a great deal of variations or simply y'all's claim that Jesus is God. I have over and over quoted from your trusted source, the Bible, verses that showed Jesus's clear claims that he has a God. All of those conflicts of the Bible in principle point out to one thing for sure that it has been altered. Have it not being so, one would not find those inconsistencies. So it is certain and we all believe that it is a compilation of word of God. What we disagree is that: Is it still is so or not? In its present state, all the evidence has shown that it is no longer in its pure and oiginal state. The argument that when this alteration took place is of no benefit to anyone rather a denial of the truth. All it matters is the facts, the alteration are there as proof. Hasan
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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