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Tasneem
Senior Member Joined: 28 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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Posted: 05 September 2005 at 7:22pm |
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Peace to all who are here to share their knowledge of Islam and to those who are genuinely interested in learning about Islam. I have just read some of the threads on this forum and in particular those posted by "Jazz". This person - Jazz has at times claimed that he does not belong to any religion and yet again you will find that he is very supportive of Christian beliefs. It seems that Jazz is highly committed to demonising Islam, driving away anyone who have any interest in Islam and to weaken the faith of the believers. I am reminded of the verse from Sura Ya-Sin: 036.008:Lo! We have put on their necks carcans reaching unto the chins, so that they are made stiff-necked. 036.009:And We have put a bar in front of them and a bar behind them, and further, We have covered them up; so that they cannot see. There are others who are also trying to strengthen Jazz's crusade by even completely denouncing the existence of God. In the past I too have answered to some of Jazz' challenges and he has shut up. But I notice that he constantly brings up new issues with the very obvious intention of demonisng Islam. This person may appear under different names, one could be "Silas". It would be best not to respond to him/her and a request to the moderators - it would be in the interest of Islamicity not to allow this person such a free reign. Edited by Tasneem |
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Ason
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notify the mods let him be banned |
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Jazz
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Dear Tasneem, Reading between the lines of what you are saying here, you seem to
be implying that I am lying........would you be more specific and
clearly point-out where this might be evident? What makes you think I am "very supportive of Christian beliefs"? I think much of the christian beliefs are based on people twisting and/or mis-interpreting what Jesus was ACTUALLY saying. I think christian zealots have attempted to link Jesus to the Torah,
claiming all these fantastic things, but I don't believe that Jesus
claimed any of this himself. Would you like to discuss this?
Dear Tasneem, Whether or not people are driven away is yet to be
determined.......whether or not believers' faith is weakened or not is
nothing to do with me, it is to do with their own condition or state of
mind.
Tasneem, To start with, you haven't even established that I am on a "crusade"
as you put it, yet you proceed to build your condemnation of me based
merely on a suspicion that you harbour. What have you said that has caused me to "shut-up"?.......I am happy
to respond to your views, comments, opinion and arguments.........it is
possible for me to not like what you have to say, but I have no desire
to call for you or anyone else to be silenced by way of boycott,
censorship or banning............what are you afraid of? No Tasneem, I am not using any more than one user-name..........only "Jazz" I don't know anyone here on the forum, nor am I with a team of people...........your suspicions are wrong. Why should your being offended be more important than my being offended? Edited by Jazz |
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Dayem
Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2005 Status: Offline Points: 520 |
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HELL!!I just posted a reply to Jazz, meaning, wasted 30 mins!! JAZZ: What makes you think I am "very supportive of Christian beliefs"? But I agree with tasneem, any fool with two eyes will realize that aftr reading ur replies. "I have posted direct quotes from Quran and Ahadith, giving in most cases links to my sources which are recognized and accepted as authoritative Islamic web-sites...............islam "demonizes" itself." What bout the answers??Dosnt these logical answer give u something to think about? (Ah, 5 more mins wasted). Edited by Dayem |
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Jazz
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 110 |
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For example? Btw, According to Mohammed, Allah was supportive of popular christian beliefs, in fact more than I. Not that his account of what was said by Jesus was the same as the
accounts of those who ACTUALLY were companions of Jesus, but
nevertheless supportive to some degree. I think that many christian beliefs are based on invented stories of
Jesus and I also think that much of Mohammed's beliefs are based these
invented stories..........I don't think that many christians or
Mohammed really understand what Jesus was REALLY saying and teaching,
this is plain to see, when one compares the guidances of Mohammed and
Jesus..........Jesus guided people to love, forgive and be merciful,
clearly abrogating the inhumane "laws" of the Torah, whereas Mohammed's
"revelations" from Allah reverted back to the old Toric inhumane "laws"
- virtually going against the guidances of Jesus. You see Dayen, I don't believe in the christian beliefs that Jesus
was the only son of God, nor that he is God, nor that his mother had a
virgin pregnancy, nor that he walked on water, nor that he rose from
the dead, nor that he claimed to be a Jew, nor that he claimed to be a
prophet, nor that he claimed to be the messiah. Are you clear on this now? Quran: The Cow
The Family of Imran
The Women
The Dinner Table
The Cattle
Marium
The Clans
The Counsel
Ornaments of Gold
The Iron
The Ranks
Best advice I can offer is to don't waste your time, if you feel it is being wasted...........you have answers to your post(s), if you wish to read it/them. Do you know what ad hominem means? If you do, would you kindly argue or discuss the subject-matter, rather than go off on a tangent using ad hominem tactics? Edited by Jazz |
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