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With CIA help, NYPD moves covertly in Muslim areas

By MATT APUZZO and ADAM GOLDMAN    Associated Press
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiwl_LiP3l8NwLPoSRUULZWhDPTg?docId=68e74ec21cb6481ebff3a063dc4ca2ba

Officials said such operations just made sense. Islamic terrorists had attacked the city on 9/11, so police needed people inside the city's Muslim neighborhoods. Officials say it does not conflict with a 2004 city law prohibiting the NYPD from using religion or ethnicity "as the determinative factor for initiating law enforcement action."

"It's not profiling," Cutter said. "It's like, after a shooting, do you go 20 blocks away and interview guys or do you go to the neighborhood where it happened?"

In 2007, the Los Angeles Police Department was criticized for even considering a similar program. The police announced plans to map Islamic neighborhoods to look for pockets of radicalization among the region's roughly 500,000 Muslims. Criticism was swift, and chief William Bratton scrapped the plan.

"A lot of these people came from countries where the police were the terrorists," Bratton said at a news conference, according to the Los Angeles Daily News. "We don't do that here. We do not want to spread fear."

In New York, current and former officials said, the lesson of that controversy was that such programs should be kept secret.

Some in the department, including lawyers, have privately expressed concerns about the raking program and how police use the information, current and former officials said. Part of the concern was that it might appear that police were building dossiers on innocent people, officials said. Another concern was that, if a case went to court, the department could be forced to reveal details about the program, putting the entire operation in jeopardy.

That's why, former officials said, police regularly shredded documents discussing rakers.

Edited by abuayisha - 24 August 2011 at 9:51am

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abuayisha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105	Post Options Post Reply Quote abuayisha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Informants to Monitor Sermons Posted: 24 August 2011 at 9:51am
	With CIA help, NYPD moves covertly in Muslim areas By MATT APUZZO and ADAM GOLDMAN Associated Press http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiwl_LiP3l8NwLPoSRUULZWhDPTg?docId=68e74ec21cb6481ebff3a063dc4ca2ba Officials said such operations just made sense. Islamic terrorists had attacked the city on 9/11, so police needed people inside the city's Muslim neighborhoods. Officials say it does not conflict with a 2004 city law prohibiting the NYPD from using religion or ethnicity "as the determinative factor for initiating law enforcement action." "It's not profiling," Cutter said. "It's like, after a shooting, do you go 20 blocks away and interview guys or do you go to the neighborhood where it happened?" In 2007, the Los Angeles Police Department was criticized for even considering a similar program. The police announced plans to map Islamic neighborhoods to look for pockets of radicalization among the region's roughly 500,000 Muslims. Criticism was swift, and chief William Bratton scrapped the plan. "A lot of these people came from countries where the police were the terrorists," Bratton said at a news conference, according to the Los Angeles Daily News. "We don't do that here. We do not want to spread fear." In New York, current and former officials said, the lesson of that controversy was that such programs should be kept secret. Some in the department, including lawyers, have privately expressed concerns about the raking program and how police use the information, current and former officials said. Part of the concern was that it might appear that police were building dossiers on innocent people, officials said. Another concern was that, if a case went to court, the department could be forced to reveal details about the program, putting the entire operation in jeopardy. That's why, former officials said, police regularly shredded documents discussing rakers. Edited by abuayisha - 24 August 2011 at 9:51am

abuayisha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105	Post Options Post Reply Quote abuayisha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 August 2011 at 8:35am
	CIA Response to August 24 Associated Press Story August 24, 2011 Today�s Associated Press story mischaracterized the nature and scope of the Central Intelligence Agency�s support to the New York City Police Department, an important counterterrorism partner in a city that has been the target of numerous terrorist plots. Our cooperation is exactly what the American people deserve and have come to expect following 9/11. The Agency�s operational focus, however, is overseas and none of the support we have provided to NYPD can be rightly characterized as �domestic spying� by the CIA. Any suggestion along those lines is simply wrong.

abuayisha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Muslim Joined: 05 October 1999 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 5105	Post Options Post Reply Quote abuayisha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 September 2011 at 3:38pm
	CIA Investigates Whether Laws Broken Helping NYPD

LearningAllaha Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 10 September 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote LearningAllaha Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:29pm
	Filth hides in the dark. Sunshine disinfects it. (Not my quote. Just a rewording of what other wise people have said.) We need a LOT of sunlight!!! (We means those of all faiths because secret government deeds lead to danger for all.