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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fezziwig Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 11:04pm
A few years ago we figured out that "separate but equal" doesn't work. Separate is never equal. Took about 500 years, so we should cherish the result.

Men: surrender! Women run everything anyway (though sometimes their influence is subtle). Let it be and enjoy yourself. All that men do is make a lot of noise and then a bloody mess. Tone it down.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kim! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 10:16pm

Blond, you are right. If 50% of a population is oppressed, that society cannot move forwards.

Mind you, if a society always looks outwards to blame others (eg: foreignors)for their problems, and never inwards, then that is a huge problem which will hinder a society's progress too, but that's a topic for a different thread, I think.  :}

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Originally posted by Rehmat Rehmat wrote:

IFor Islam, man and woman have the same dignity, but different tasks; they are of the same values, but have different abilities; they are equal before Allah, but have different roles in life. the question of whether or not this is �modern� is irrelevant.

 

 

Asalaamu alaikum,

 

I think this is all well and good in theory but the reality is that in many places, Muslim women are NOT getting their rights. There are honour killings, forced marriages, genital mutilation in the extreme then there are smaller injustices such as not being allowed to enter masjids.

 

How many of us (male and female) know that a Muslim man has the right of marrying  up to 4 wives but how many of us know that a woman has the right to be satisfied sexually by her husband?

 

I'm not saying it's all a conspiracy by men against women but it seems that it's always common knowledge about husband's and men's rights - how many of us have read the "duties of a wife" type articles   but the "duties of a Muslim man" articles are sorely lacking.

 

Heh..maybe I should just go and write one myself

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ummziba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 5:19am

That makes a lot of sense, Blond.  It is logical that happy women will raise happy, productive children, whereas unhappy or oppressed women would raise unhappy, dissatisfied children.

Peace, ummziba.

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I have heard that a nation can rise no higher than its woman. Where the woman is uplifted, the fruit of her womb will manifest her happiness and the community will rise. Where the woman is oppressed, the fruit of her womb bears her unhappiness and the community will fall.

It is the law of cause and effect.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rehmat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2005 at 8:04am

Islam gave women some rights (marriage and divorce by consent, inheritance, education political and legal rights) 1400 years ago, which were unknown to their Christian and Jewish sisters until 19th century. of course Islam�s scheme for life is from �that world�. it is an alternative that confronts the so-called modern world, its values, agnosticism, and �anything goes� mentality, with a genuine counter-project that only appears to be outdated because it is timeless.

 

The western civilization is already witnessing the casting of doubts on fashionable facets of the sexual and feminist revolution. AIDS alone has forced people to rethink their manners in more than one respect. the first manageress in USA begin to express regret at their now irrevocable decision not to have children for the sake of their careers � at having placed too much emphasis on �sisterhood� at the expense of �motherhood�. more women than before are now convinced that pure imitation of man is not the best way of liberating women. in the us, as in Europe, it is once again fashionable among formerly �swinging� students to �go steady�. in 1968, Vance Packard in his book �Sexual Wilderness� coined the term �sex jungle� for the excesses of the sexual revolution in his country � the USA.

 

For Islam, man and woman have the same dignity, but different tasks; they are of the same values, but have different abilities; they are equal before Allah, but have different roles in life. the question of whether or not this is �modern� is irrelevant.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alwardah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:30am

As Salamu Alaikum  

 

Masha Allah an eye-opener. I totally agree with you it is about time we women realized the true meaning of Feminism in Islam.

 

We have so much going for us, so why do we wish to become slaves as the feminist in the west are.

 

I think we are very ignorant of our position in society according to Islam. It is time to take a very close look at the true role of Woman in Islam.

 

Jazakallahu Khairan  for bringing up this topic.

 

�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ummziba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2005 at 4:20am

You are right, Angel, men and women are two sides of the same equation, we cannot do without each other.  And Israfil, for sure "feminist Muslim" is an oxymoron.  However, that doesn't mean there aren't many issues in the ummah that need to be addressed as far as inequality goes.  Muslims need to realize that just because an atrocity is commited and blamed on culture doesn't mean we should shrug our shoulders and say "that is not Islam".

We need to address inequality head on and help stop practices such as so called "honour killings", women forced to marry someone they don't want to, dowry being paid to the bride's family or the groom's family instead of the bride, woman banned from some mosques, and so on and so forth.

It isn't good enough to just declare that these things are not Islamic, we must speak out and put an end to any "cultural" practices that are clearly wrong. Men and women are equally responsible before Allah for their actions or lack of them.

Peace, ummziba.

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