Apologetic Hiroshima and defiant America

"blood thirsty, gun totting, control freak American idiots." Thanks for reminding me that one. By the way, do you realise what percentage of the global population would agree with me. Please, tell me why?

B: The point is you acted as if you'd not called me names when you clearly have called me and my countrymen and women all kinds of perverse invectives.  So who are we to trust Sasha?  Now you want to quote some statistics - which you lambasted yesterday or the day before when I quoted the decrease in unnecessary deaths in Iraq...now SUDDENLY you're all fond of stats again?  Well what stats friend?  What poll...some communist inspired groups going around to college campuses and asking people in front of their friends if they love George W. Bush?  Is that your controlled study? Or is it another one - perhaps taken in the states among Michael Moore worshippers?  Or is it one in your favorite magazine - NewsWEAK?  Just curious - which study you're going to link for us - quote for us...

Go ahead Sasha - WE'RE ALL LISTENING...

Let's discuss this single aspect as two equal humans. For a few minutes I will forget that the US is constantly invading and occupying Muslim lands.

B: This statement alone is ridiculous...'constantly' - nope.  Ejecting totalitarianism - yup - forgot about that, didn't you, you not very surreptitious communist wonk!  Well some of us won't go for your agenda driven comments without tasking you to support them.  That's really such a pain for you, it's clear, but we can keep asking - perhaps one day we'll get you to travel that road of logic and reason...I'm not holding my breath though!

"in my particular faith."

What, pray tell, would that be?

But no humanitarian angle trash, no comparing how much better you all are than Saddam or Talibaan, please. Just facts.

B: All we have are the facts - but even when it comes to perceptions - you claim that facts don't matter - that what matters are the perceptions themselves - MORE THAN THE FACTS.  Think about how ludicrous and wrong that position is!  Now suddenly you're calling for the facts...first stats are suspect, then you point to some poll (?) to prove some agenda driven point about GWB..  You question the veracity of facts concerning Muslim perceptions and then on a dime call for 'just facts.'  Which of the chameleon positions you've taken will you stick to - if any?  As an ice skater Sasha, you'd be 'all over the ice.'

Let's start with one clear fact - an occupier does not hand over power (including military power) to the occupied - they lord the occupation over the occupied.  That has not happened in Afghanistan nor Iraq.  Power has, is and will be turned over.  FACT. We shall see how much citizen control there will be of the armies in Afghanistan and Iraq, in Palestine and Israel and in Spain, France and the US to see, if, by our own definition, any of those countries will ever be free of their occupations - My guess is that your socialist buddies in Spain are pretty enamored by their power - they probably don't want to give it up...socialists and communists are known for finding excuses to hang onto power, for wresting power or "maintaining" power, agains the clear will of the people - they just know how to exercise it better than the people - in their minds...So we'll see how free Spain and indeed Venezuela really are in the coming months and years...yeah, all is great when the great stuggle is against the capitalists - but what if the communists take over - what is their track record?  Anyone for the facts on that discussion?  Or are you going to tell us about the nuances of 'true communism' and how it is so completely misunderstood?

Do you know how much of the world population thinks communists are murderous idiots?  Please, tell me why?

B: . . . when you clearly have called me and my countrymen and women all kinds of perverse invectives.

Tell us, please, what should the pro-humans call Americans in their state of oil lust and selling democracy with the largest arsenal of guns in the world?

B: If the idea is to speak and walk softly, but carry a big stick (Teddy Roosevelt) there is nothing wrong with this, per se.  I think that guns under control are probably a fact of the world and I'd rather see them under democratic control then under some tribal fuedalism with its endelss fueding..but we know what little value you have for Americans.  Apparently you can add to you list of vitriol 'anti-human.'  But that's all you man.

Why should anyone mind if you keep pleasing (more like deluding) yourself about the US image? Why would I be bothered by people living with blinkers of their own making as long as they do not occupy my watan?

B: Blinkers?  Man, you've got the largest set of blinkers on I've ever encountered...you're slamming 300 million people as once and think that's legit...?!

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to prove some agenda driven point about GWB.. Why would anyone, not just I, ever have to prove any points about poor GWB? Good luck! He is doing to the US what her worst enemies only ever dreamt of.

B: The US was hated in certain quarters way before GWB was on the scene - your arm waving pontifications notwithstanding...your hatred is still hatred, through and through...too bad that..I thought you communists were about 'community' and not naked hatred.

I have no idea how old you are, but all of us grow up to the reality that when it comes to "mass contact" ONLY PUBLIC PERCEPTION HOLDS. As many lines you waste certain simple laws of Nature do not change.

B: I've never disputed the basic laws of God, truth and nature..but perception, true perception, honest perception, should and eventually does come into line with reality - including the false perception that the US could ever be and is somehow responsible for all the ills of the world...and has not, in fact, done a great deal of good in the world..
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Power has, is and will be turned over. Where? Hallucination? Or, you just takes us all to be idiots? And, to be precise of your kind? Sorry, I didn't know you meant on paper and for home market progress spinning.

B: In actual fact.  8 1/2 million people voted even under risk of their health and safety - how's that for your precious perception?  Those brave souls speak much more loudly than you or I ever will Sasha.