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    Posted: 09 December 2010 at 5:35am
I think that is possible. As long as religious affiliation is not an issue and he can handle the responsibilities of being the president of the US.
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Before there would be Muslim POTUS there would be a Jewish one first who have been the king makers lately!
The old rule of thumb was this position was cut out for the WASP only but JFK broke that rule; then got assassinated and now Obama who is biracial copy of the slick Willy is an exception after a W's mess...It is not the people who really matter, it is the Wall Street /corporate America who they want to run the show and they will prove that by campaign financing as they did in Obama's case; a 100% more money against McCain...And what are the chances for a Muslim being in that loop that is wholly owned and operated by the Jewish folks and AIPAC? slim to none! And to make things worse Muslims are scattered all over the States without any political machinery in place to name except may be Detroit area!
There have been one gov in Louisiana and one gov elect in SC both of Indian descent and both have given up their fathers' religions for Christianity so did Obama!
There is another case of Muslim President of Argentina Carlos Menem comes to mind who had to become a Catholic to get in, politics lets strange bedfellow in the palaces of power...What good it is to gain the world and loose the soul!



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Well, the "Terminator" is governor of California, so I guess anything is possible. Geek

I don't think a Muslim POTUS will happen in the near future though.
 
Gibbs, you're more the exception than the rule. While you may be more open minded than most non-Muslims I've come across there is so little chance that a Muslim candidate would actually win.
 
The first step would be a Muslim governor in a key electorial state like CA. Then, after a successful term Joe public may be more likely to vote Muslim in a presidential election.
 
 
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So how do we all tie this into a Muslim being president of the U.S?
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Words are ambiguous. There's a difference of meaning of the word true depending on whether we talk about first order logic or beliefs (spiritual truths).

Yes, in first order logic either atheism or theism is true. But since we cannot verify this we are talking about beliefs. And beliefs are not facts. Therefore I support the notion of multiple spiritual truths depending on individual experience and thought.

Yes, Islam states God exists. So does Christianity. But they are beliefs. Not scientific facts. Or assertions based on boolean algebra or first-order logic. But when we are talking about spiritual truths we can claim that God exists.

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Originally posted by Matt Browne Matt Browne wrote:

Originally posted by Tiffe Tiffe wrote:

I believe Americans are being underestimated on this thread. Most Americans would vote for a Christian or Jew - and the day is coming quickly where they would vote for a Muslim, if they were convinced he or she was a moderate Muslim. I'm not entirely sure how they would know this. Can anyone suggest how we could convince the general population that a candidate was moderate in his or her personal views?



I think defining moderate is rather simple

1) There can be more than one true religion
2) Beliefs are not facts
3) Laws are created by the people for the people and can change over time


 
If atheism is true, and Islam is true how is there truth in both?
 
Islam states God exist,
 
Atheism says it doesn't how can these be both true? I know its slightly derailing but please explain....
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Originally posted by Leewcb2 Leewcb2 wrote:

I don't see why not. I mean, this is America, the founding fathers and the continuation clearly allows for any one who was born in the us to run for president.
Now, as far as actually getting elected goes, I think the American people are not there yet. However, I think it the Muslim community can make it easier by distinguishing themselves from extremist and making sure the American people understand that Islam is not what the extremest say it is.
 
It's a logical topic because
 
a) Islam is a hot topic
 
b) because the constitution and the subsequent laws that follow it are exclaiming that "all men are created equal"
 
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c) Because Muslims say Islam is universal....
 
This has nothing to do with Islam, rather having to do with the opinions of Americans. To you, this may seem an obvious answer however if you cared to look, there are variances in answers.
 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Browne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2010 at 7:55am
Originally posted by Tiffe Tiffe wrote:

I believe Americans are being underestimated on this thread. Most Americans would vote for a Christian or Jew - and the day is coming quickly where they would vote for a Muslim, if they were convinced he or she was a moderate Muslim. I'm not entirely sure how they would know this. Can anyone suggest how we could convince the general population that a candidate was moderate in his or her personal views?



I think defining moderate is rather simple

1) There can be more than one true religion
2) Beliefs are not facts
3) Laws are created by the people for the people and can change over time


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