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Seeks hidayath,

y dont you show some courage and tell that the Quran has no answers to it.You are using me to cover your very obvious belief that the Quran is incomplete.Y do u fear to declare that the Quran is incomplete and that it has very less answers or unclear answers to your questions?Once you openly declare that the Quran is incomplete,i will surely answer all your questions to prove that the Quran IS COMPLETE AND FULLY DETAILED.We need a clear stance from you.The debate is now between you and me.I declare that the Quran is perfect, complete and fully detailed.No ifs and No buts.Is your stance similar? If your stance is Quran is complete BUT.......then i dont wish to continue with the debate and prove anything to you.There are other deserving believers in this forum and im here for them by God's leave.So lets see what your stance is b4 we move ahead.Inshallah.
 
 

[4:60] Have you noted those who claim that they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, then uphold the unjust laws of their idols? They were commanded to reject such laws. Indeed, it is the devil's wish to lead them far astray.

[5:50] Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than GOD's for those who have attained certainty?

[5:66] If only they would uphold the Torah and the Gospel, and what is sent down to them herein from their Lord, they would be showered with blessings from above them and from beneath their feet. Some of them are righteous, but many of them are evildoers.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seekshidayath Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2010 at 2:03am
As Salamu Alaikum

You can't escape and run away like that Haris. You are over boards at discussions. Many read these discussions.Okay, now i want to know its answers. {P.S not thru PMs but here in this thread}. I wish to read, what you people present to prove yourselves right.

Else, its would be clear to all of us, THAT YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS TO IT.

Kindly note, am waiting for all the answers of the questions in different posts.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Peace,
 
Seekshidayath. im sure the people who deserved the answers have received them in detail by Allah's grace.They will think and study the Quran for answers.The ones who are not blessed will run away in aversion not satisfied with GOD's repeated assertions.No wonder GOD in the Quran repeats that only the ones who possess intelligence will take heed.
 
 
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May Allah swt guide whoever has gone astray.

You did not answer a single question of any of our posts since last two days. If you get answers to them any day from Qura'n you are always welcome to answer them here.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peacemaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2010 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by haris30432 haris30432 wrote:

Arent these verses from GOD enough for one to believe that the Quran is not just perfect but complete and fully detailed??.
 
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
Tahir ul Qadri

  (فرما دیجئے:) کیا میں اﷲ کے سوا کسی اور کو حاکم (و فیصل) تلاش کروں حالانکہ وہ (اﷲ) ہی ہے جس نے تمہاری طرف مفصّل (یعنی واضح لائحہ عمل پر مشتمل) کتاب نازل فرمائی ہے، اور وہ لوگ جن کو ہم نے (پہلے) کتاب دی تھی (دل سے) جانتے ہیں کہ یہ (قرآن) آپ کے رب کی طرف سے (مبنی) برحق اتارا ہوا ہے پس آپ (ان اہلِ کتاب کی نسبت) شک کرنے والوں میں نہ ہوں (کہ یہ لوگ قرآن کا وحی ہونا جانتے ہیں یا نہیں)

Yousuf Ali Say: "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail." They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.

[7:52] We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.

وَلَقَدْ جِئْنَاهُم بِكِتَابٍ فَصَّلْنَاهُ عَلَى عِلْمٍ هُدًى
وَرَحْمَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ
[7:52]
We have given them a Book of knowledge that explains the Guidance in full detail. It is a Mercy for those who accept it. (It has the Power to change Hellish societies into Paradise on earth.)
 
 
[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book.** To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.

وَمَا مِن دَآبَّةٍ فِي الأَرْضِ وَلاَ طَائِرٍ يَطِيرُ بِجَنَاحَيْهِ إِلاَّ أُمَمٌ أَمْثَالُكُم مَّا فَرَّطْنَا فِي الكِتَابِ مِن شَيْءٍ ثُمَّ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يُحْشَرُونَ﴿

There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.
 
i have given substantial evidence from the quran in support of my claims in this discussion.And i have full faith in those who are blessed with knowledge that they will understand perfectly what the above means.I wish to no longer continue this discussion as i have done my duty towards you.There is no compulsion in religion.So i leave it to all of you to understand and study on your own.May GOD guide you.
 
Salam. 
 
Yes, Qur'an is undoubtedly the word of Allah. And Allah sent the final Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him) to show the world how to follow the Qur'an. In Allah's Messenger do we find the practical example of the Qur'an.
 
For example, the Messenger explained to us about the salat (prayers) by practical action; he showed us how and when to offer the salat (prayers) by performing them. And that is just one example. The Messenger delivered the message not only in theory but also in practice. And this practice is basically the Sunnah.
 
May Allah guide us all.
 
Peace


Edited by peacemaker - 13 February 2010 at 5:46pm
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13
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Same thing again Haris. I wish you to post that PM sent here at discussions boards. By the way am very allergic to Taher-ul-Qadri. So don't quote him to me, kindly. Anyways, i shall reply you only when you share the same discussion here

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Arent these verses from GOD enough for one to believe that the Quran is not just perfect but complete and fully detailed??.
 
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
Tahir ul Qadri

  (فرما دیجئے:) کیا میں اﷲ کے سوا کسی اور کو حاکم (و فیصل) تلاش کروں حالانکہ وہ (اﷲ) ہی ہے جس نے تمہاری طرف مفصّل (یعنی واضح لائحہ عمل پر مشتمل) کتاب نازل فرمائی ہے، اور وہ لوگ جن کو ہم نے (پہلے) کتاب دی تھی (دل سے) جانتے ہیں کہ یہ (قرآن) آپ کے رب کی طرف سے (مبنی) برحق اتارا ہوا ہے پس آپ (ان اہلِ کتاب کی نسبت) شک کرنے والوں میں نہ ہوں (کہ یہ لوگ قرآن کا وحی ہونا جانتے ہیں یا نہیں)

Yousuf Ali Say: "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail." They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.

[7:52] We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.

وَلَقَدْ جِئْنَاهُم بِكِتَابٍ فَصَّلْنَاهُ عَلَى عِلْمٍ هُدًى
وَرَحْمَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ
[7:52]
We have given them a Book of knowledge that explains the Guidance in full detail. It is a Mercy for those who accept it. (It has the Power to change Hellish societies into Paradise on earth.)
 
 
[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book.** To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.

وَمَا مِن دَآبَّةٍ فِي الأَرْضِ وَلاَ طَائِرٍ يَطِيرُ بِجَنَاحَيْهِ إِلاَّ أُمَمٌ أَمْثَالُكُم مَّا فَرَّطْنَا فِي الكِتَابِ مِن شَيْءٍ ثُمَّ إِلَى رَبِّهِمْ يُحْشَرُونَ﴿

There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.
 
i have given substantial evidence from the quran in support of my claims in this discussion.And i have full faith in those who are blessed with knowledge that they will understand perfectly what the above means.I wish to no longer continue this discussion as i have done my duty towards you.There is no compulsion in religion.So i leave it to all of you to understand and study on your own.May GOD guide you.
 
Salam. 


Edited by haris30432 - 13 February 2010 at 12:06am
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Insha Allah, the following quote shall help you get clarified, sis Martha..
 
H. A.  Gibb, a scholar from the West, presents  an objective analysis of this fact (S. A. Husain, 1975, p. 5):

The Quran is comparatively short and even in this small book the greater part has no direct bearing on dogmatic, ritual legal, political and social questions. The general principles by which all these matters should be regulated are to be found in the Quran but not all of them are set out with equal clearness and detail. It is, therefore, essential to interpret and elaborate the relevant texts. The natural, and indeed, the only possible, interpreter whose judgment can be trusted is the Prophet through whom they were revealed. According to the Quran itself the Prophet was possessed not only of the kitab, the written book  but also of the hikma, the wisdom, whereby ultimate principles can be applied to the details and episodes of ordinary life.  Consequently, his actions and sayings, transmitted by chain of reliable narrators form a kind of commentary and supplement to the Quran.

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