discussion of cultural differences

aisha wrote: salaam,have you heard the saying zamanh,when you point remember three fingers pointing back at you.its people like you who make others belive that racisim is good,im from the west born in england,would you like it if i said india is evil,i guess not.there has to be something wrong when a muslim starts to be racist, many of poeple have been saved due to the west and the good thing is isalm can be practised freely.

 

I think because some people haven't been to the west, think it is a bad place. Everyone has a different view and some are not listening to others. Its people like us that give a reflection about Islam, the beauty in it. We are here in the west, not to critisize and condemn it, and it is where some people like me live, work, eat,.... supported me more than my county did, and I have so many goals I know that I can accomplish them. I don't have to worry so much about my kids 'cause everything I need I get.

Peace

Zaman,

Salam Alaekom. Are you saying that you don't beleive that a muslim in the West, like America is not able to live a life that is truly pious?

-There are many things here that we pay taxes for which are "haram", for example state laws which allow tax money to be spent on stem-cell research and the ability for minors to have abortions without parent's consent at the expense of the American tax payer. But as a citizen or perm resident in this country we must fight against this (jihad) with diplomacy. We can contact legistlature and ask our senators to not vote for these haram acts. A person in the medical proffession can work from a "pro-life" perspective and refuse to give birth control that destroys life (the IUD) and not perform abortions or help with any of these matters and still be employed, there are several organizations that supports PRO-LIFE physicians and nurses. This is happening all the time. Just because I live here I do not just accept it, I stand up against it by taking advantage of the privaleges I am afforded by living in a democratic country, which is more than I can say for alot of other countries.

Why do you feel sorry for Muslim men who marry Western women, When we marry do we not see clearly that this man or wife is from another culture? Men who are from the other culture who have moved here are retrospectively on "American turf" and will most likely make a life in the West. Their children will be western and must be successful in the western culture not the country their parents came from! If for example the child grows up seeing that the woman's opinions do not have equal importance as her husbands (which is not religious I must add)  Do you feel this is right? then the child will be disabled in their own relationship if society doesn't believe these. Also say a child grows up here and is always awkward dealing with people from the opposite sex, they will have a disadvantage when working and going to college here. So it is importand for the husband or wife who is from another culture to accept the ways of the country. Do you agree with this? In respect to hiking day trips ect. In this country most Americans enjoy past times like fishing and hiking more than shopping.

MAYPB

aisha wrote: salaam,have you heard the saying zamanh,when you point remember three fingers pointing back at you.

MUslims are not perfect but they are certainly better than the West. Atleast, they don't stroll around half-naked in streets or have intercourse with each other like animals. NO other group of people, in the world, is hated as much as the Westerners.
I don't usually discriminate on the basis of culture. But I do discriminate against the WEsern culture, as it too much contrary to Islam.

Also, West does not help any one, unless that serves its own interest.


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zaman,yes its the culture thats wrong,i do agree,but what you are saying about western reverts is wrong,i myself am a revert,and i know a lot of muslim revert sisters who came from western culture,do you know how hard it is to be a revert especialy white english revert,the amount of hate from other english people because they think youve betrade them,no you dont,i lift my head to them,islam is not some game its my way of life and i love my husband very much and i would do anything for him,i know the same goes for my friends,if you think we have got it easy here then your wrong,ive seen my husbands family who live in afganistan yes they work hard and one day i will be helping them,with money from the west.