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Can you ask matthew where my favourite earings are?  Ive lost em
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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by Yusuf. Yusuf. wrote:

As for the people sitting in circles "communicating" with the dead, they would be better off spending their time helping the living.

And what makes you think they are not helping ?

 

Well, I suppose so; but I can't think of how it could be of any help myself. When I think of helping people I think of providing better shelter, food, and so on, and I can't really see this helping. Of course, since I don't believe it's possible to communicate with the dead in this manner, I would naturally be predisposed to seeing it as a waste of time.

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alright trace, hows shaz,

no luck with your earings ,but he has given another message,

 

July 26, 2005


Addendum to July 16, 2005 message; message from Hatonn about NESARA

[NOTE: Due to computer difficulties (and my computer illiteracy), a number of addresses on my distribution list were lost. If you formerly received Matthew�s messages directly and are receiving this as a forward or reading it as a posting, please send me your address in the email body. Thank you. ]

July 22, 2005

The following brief message is Matthew�s response to a request that he provide additional information about the �major changes� by the end of this year.

MATTHEW: It is not possible to specify details for the "major changes" because the energy field of potential shows great areas of flexibility at this juncture insofar as how and when processes will be completed. What is firm is the unstoppable momentum toward the inevitable outcome.

The intensity of light has reached a number of the principles who formerly were resistant, but not the very peak of the Illuminati, so this is an unraveling process steadily gathering strength as opposed to actions taken with such forcefulness that results would be "explosive," as it were. Nevertheless, we can tell you that by year end, changes will be evident in the highest ranks of the US government; at least primary disclosure, if not all details, of who is responsible for "global terrorism," including 9/11 and the bombings in London, Spain and other areas of violence; withdrawal of foreign troops from areas of occupation and exposure of graft and corruption in reconstruction funds for Iraq; spreading demand for a new basis in banking and lending institutions; environmental preservation and restoration; and the crumbling of oppressive governments and dictatorships. At this point, equal energy is being put forth toward invasion of Iran by the White House and opposing force by Russia and allies; if this continues, nothing in this respect will materialize in that country and the public at large will be none the wiser about this energetic conflict.

Again I emphasize that the extent of these changes by year end is not predictable with certainty, but the absoluteness of success in these and other areas where changes are needed IS known! It is essential to realize that happening simultaneously with the areas of change I mentioned are the activities that are laying a firm foundation for the transitional process, like a sweeping out of the old in the same motion that is sweeping in the new.

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NOTE: Although Hatonn and I have communicated ever since the opening of my telepathic connections 11 1/2 years ago (and he gave me information for two chapters of Voices of the Universe,) this is the first message he has asked me to circulate.

July 18, 2005

HATONN: I�d like to lay to rest this NESARA announcement business for once and for all. Getting to the point of proving that NESARA is real is an ongoing process with a great deal of progressive activity that has not been given to any channel. Any and all messages that have been giving dates and telling of hostages and CNN takeovers and especially the killings! - are NOT coming from any of us! I assure you, nothing I�ve ever said to any channel has been in that realm of the absurdity!

That leaves the DISinformation specialists in either spirit or in body as the �newsmakers.� What�s to be accomplished besides confusion and disillusionment in the believers and jeers from the crowd that always has doubted there is a NESARA? Isn�t that enough mischief? From our viewpoint, it is! The energy wasted in both camps is distressing! I�m in charge of all communication between Earth and all points elsewhere, and there�s this hodgepodge of false information going around that I�m trying to get straightened out! I wish the well-meaning people who are sending around those messages with such elaborate explanations would stop and think, �Would �ETs� and Sananda really send us all those details?� They would see how unlikely that is and look elsewhere for verification of true happenings. I strongly suggest they look to their godselves, where all truth is known!

By the day we near the time when NESARA will be known � no, I didn�t say �announced� because I don�t mean �announced� � I mean �known� - but we don�t know when that day will be. We aren�t sitting idly waiting for it to amble into sight � we�re doing everything within the processes that govern any US legislation so that never can they throw at us, �You took over our planet!� Of course this is bigger than the US president and his administration�s power group, but they always have the ear of the rest of the world. Those of you who are familiar with Matthew�s messages know that he has made the point several times that even without NESARA�s announcement, forward movement is constantly underway toward the same goals. That is exactly what is going on � we�re progressing on the same fronts by other means. Anything we do is not by our decision alone, but in conjunction with your own people who will emerge as the vanguard of the transitional government. There are two ways this can go. Nothing is written in stone and we don�t know which way at this point will best serve you. Things can be changed by going what you�d call forward or backward in time. We don�t expect you to understand this, so you simply have to trust that we�re proceeding cautiously and wisely so that the logistics of major changes will come about as smoothly as possible. This isn�t a revolution in the sense that your history books tell, but many of those who are in prime roles now or soon will be have served in multiple changeovers of ruling bodies. They have learned what is necessary and what isn�t, and that�s why they wanted to come back and achieve change without the chaos and bloodshed of your past. We know your patience is exhausted waiting for NESARA to come and with it, the resignations of the US president and his administration. Stop waiting and live fully and let NESARA lie! If you must think of it, think of it as a blueprint or a set of short- and long-term goals and not as the whole enchilada -- yes, I know your expression �- coming all at once. Processes in motion will be slower but just as certain in the results that NESARA intends. The house of cards that is the US Congress is falling like dominoes in slow motion behind the scenes. There are holdouts, and we can�t say that we didn�t anticipate this, but the many who are responding to the light�and light is our ONLY weapon!�will be helping us to influence the ones still on teeter totters.

PS.  July 26, 2005

Suzanne, please add to my message that when we undertake important missions, such as assisting you all in this transition out of darkness into light, we DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES! The series of bumblings given as �reasons� that NESARA never gets announced time after time are just plain nonsense! Anyone who knows the truth of us realizes that, but the people whose discernment is just developing could see us as part of the problem, because however could bumblers be part of the solution?


 

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  1. Find some take action people in your communities and get their help to saturate the area with every conceivable method of letting citizens know the facts about NESARA.  Please do it NOW!  Your Country and Your World Need Your Help.

Ive just cut and paste this from some website containing the word NESARA  - is that why your posting such bunkum here?????????

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I just thought I would add the below for good measure  Forum BEWARE!!!!!! enough now!

 

One of the most pernicious and long-running consumer frauds in recent history has been the NESARA scam, evidently an outgrowth of the Omega fraud, which promised exorbitant returns while defrauding thousands of unsuspecting US citizens.

Shaini Goodwin, who uses "Dove of Oneness" as a pen name, has claimed that a �secret� law called NESARA (National Economic Security and Reformation Act) will supposedly bring about changes in the US financial system including the forgiving of mortgages, credit card debts, as well as abolishing the IRS.

Goodwin�s mythology describes Illuminati factional fighting in which allegedly one group called the "White Knights" is fighting against the dominant group. This is also reminiscent of another mythology promoted by Rumor Mill News, in which Faction 1 of the Illuminati is supposedly engaged in a global power death struggle with Faction 2.

Goodwin�s NESARA scam is based on the gullibility and naivete of US citizens who had been suckered into previous cons like the investment scam called Omega, operated by Clyde Hood of Mattoon, Illinois in the mid 1990s which yielded more than $20 million from thousands of people.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blue machine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2005 at 6:01am

goodwin might be a fraud,are you saying suzanne ward and the channelings of matthew are aswell.

why don`t you email her and ask about things, go and have a look at the site.

then if you stll think all things are " bunkum " well, your loss.

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