Sura 86...

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All,

Let�s look at sura 86, as a whole, so that it can be more clearly understood�

86�

.1         And/by the clouds, and/by the Night Comer/One who knocks/Morning Star.  

.2         And what made you know/informed you what the Night Comer/One who knocks/Morning Star is?

.3         The star, or asterism, brightly shining.

.4         Verily every soul hath over it a guardian.

.5         So, in order to inform mankind from that which originated the inner man.

.6         The inner man originated from water pouring/jetting/flowing forcefully.

.7         He comes forth from between the backbone/loins/spine and the breast bone/rib bones.

.8         When His (is) upon/near/above He returned/was brought back the one who has power over.

.9         A day/time all secrets/intentions be tested/exposed/will turn to its reality.

.10       So that no strength/power from and nor Savior for him.

.11       And/by the clouds He returned.

.12       And/by the entire Earth that of the splitting/separation/geological rift-fault line.

.13       When His word (of) Judgment.

.14       And that He (is not) in vain.

.15       When they devise a scheme.

.16       And I devise and accomplish.

.17       Then respite gently all the disbelievers, respite them gently for a little while.      

Red = Jesus� Crucifixion and Resurrection�

Green = Jesus� Second Coming�

Thanks...

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Apple Pie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Topic: Sura 86... Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:29pm
	All, Let�s look at sura 86, as a whole, so that it can be more clearly understood� 86� .1 And/by the clouds, and/by the Night Comer/One who knocks/Morning Star. .2 And what made you know/informed you what the Night Comer/One who knocks/Morning Star is? .3 The star, or asterism, brightly shining. .4 Verily every soul hath over it a guardian. .5 So, in order to inform mankind from that which originated the inner man. .6 The inner man originated from water pouring/jetting/flowing forcefully. .7 He comes forth from between the backbone/loins/spine and the breast bone/rib bones. .8 When His (is) upon/near/above He returned/was brought back the one who has power over. .9 A day/time all secrets/intentions be tested/exposed/will turn to its reality. .10 So that no strength/power from and nor Savior for him. .11 And/by the clouds He returned. .12 And/by the entire Earth that of the splitting/separation/geological rift-fault line. .13 When His word (of) Judgment. .14 And that He (is not) in vain. .15 When they devise a scheme. .16 And I devise and accomplish. .17 Then respite gently all the disbelievers, respite them gently for a little while. Red = Jesus� Crucifixion and Resurrection� Green = Jesus� Second Coming� Thanks...

semar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 11 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1830	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 4:40pm
	Peace, Here yusuf ali translation (from comprehensive search, above), I think this surah doesn't not talk about jesus but for general mankind: Surah 86 - At-Tariq (The Night-Comer) / Yusuf Ali 86:1 By the Sky and the Night-Visitant (therein);- 86:2 And what will explain to thee what the Night-Visitant is?- 86:3 (It is) the Star of piercing brightness;- 86:4 There is no soul but has a protector over it. 86:5 Now let man but think from what he is created! 86:6 He is created from a drop emitted- 86:7 Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs: 86:8 Surely ((Allah)) is able to bring him back (to life)! 86:9 The Day that (all) things secret will be tested, 86:10 (Man) will have no power, and no helper. 86:11 By the Firmament which returns (in its round), 86:12 And by the Earth which opens out (for the gushing of springs or the sprouting of vegetation),- 86:13 Behold this is the Word that distinguishes (Good from Evil): 86:14 It is not a thing for amusement. 86:15 As for them, they are but plotting a scheme, 86:16 And I am planning a scheme. 86:17 Therefore grant a delay to the Unbelievers: Give respite to them gently (for awhile). Edited by semar
	Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

Apple Pie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 5:32pm
	Greetings semar, Thanks for your reply� "Here yusuf ali translation (from comprehensive search, above), I think this surah doesn't not talk about jesus but for general mankind:" Who do you think �alttariqi� is�..? Take care�

Yusuf. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 July 2001 Location: far from home Status: Offline Points: 2385	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 5:53pm
	Assalamu alaikum, I'm looking at the Arabic text right now. Ayat five literally says: "then let mankind ""Al'Insanu" recollect from what he was created." applepie's translation is nonsense.
	Yusuf

Apple Pie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 6:06pm
	Greetings Yusuf, Thanks for adding your comments� � I'm looking at the Arabic text right now. Ayat five literally says: "then let mankind ""Al'Insanu" recollect from what he was created." applepie's translation is nonsense.� Show us the Arabic�

Yusuf. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 July 2001 Location: far from home Status: Offline Points: 2385	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 6:13pm

	Yusuf

Apple Pie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 138	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 6:20pm
	Now...exegete it for us...

Yusuf. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 02 July 2001 Location: far from home Status: Offline Points: 2385	Posted: 21 July 2005 at 6:30pm
	fa: consequential conjunction l+jussive passive imperfective third person masculine singular form of "nath.ara" (to look, behold, see, consider) indicating hortatory form al 'insanu: (collective noun: mankind) nominative form indicating subject of the verb "yunthir" falyunth.iri il-insanu therefore means "then let mankind be shown" mimma: contraction of min ma: from what khuliqa: passive perfect 3rd person masculine singular form of khaliqa (to create), clearly agreeing with al-insanu mimma khuliqa therefore means "from what he was created." "Then let mankind be shown from what he was created." Crystal clear. Edited by Yusuf.
	Yusuf