Sura 86...

 

You still plagiarized his �work�.

 

Period.

 

Thanks for not denying�

no because i did not claim  credit for it. I just posted information, in this case from maxwell. It would have been another thing alltogether if i had claimed it was my own, i didnt.

 

 
Horus.

 

Horus, the morning star.

 

Sura 86, the morning star.

 

Please inform us how horus came to be contained in the Koran?

 

 

Thanks�

Lets see, a surah named the morningstar wich too can have been horus, like he was the lamb, the krst, the fisherman etc etc.. 1 single thing that might have been horus. compared to..

 

• Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger⁴², with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.⁴³
• He was a child teacher in the Temple and was baptized when he was 30 years old.⁴⁴
• Horus was also baptized by "Anup the Baptizer," who becomes "John the Baptist."
• He had 12 disciples.
• He performed miracles and raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
• He walked on water.
• Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
• He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light, the Messiah, God's Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word" etc.
• He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the Lamb, Lion and Fish ("Ichthys").⁴⁵
• Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."⁴⁶
• Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One," long before the Christians duplicated the story.⁴⁷

uhmmm....NO...youre still the one who has explaining to do!

Greetings Noah,

 

Thanks for your reply�

 

You still plagiarized his �work�.

 Period.

 Thanks for not denying�

no because i did not claim  credit for it. I just posted information, in this case from maxwell. It would have been another thing alltogether if i had claimed it was my own, i didnt.

Actually, you did claim it as your own.

 

The post was under your name�not Maxwell�s name.

 

Nor did you even once mention that the material came directly from Maxwell�s website.

 

In addition, you even bracketed the beginning and ending of Maxwell�s plagiarized webpaste with your own intro and ending�

 

Not very smart.

 

This is what we call plagiarism�

 

 

  

 

Horus. 

Horus, the morning star. 

Sura 86, the morning star. 

Please inform us how horus came to be contained in the Koran? 

Thanks�

Lets see, a surah named the morningstar wich too can have been horus, like he was the lamb, the krst, the fisherman etc etc.. 1 single thing that might have been horus. compared to..

 

It is simply amazing that you acknowledge that horus was the morning star and that he made his way into your beloved book of faith�

 

Now�.in your vast research into this area�.please inform us exactly how it is that Muslims worship a pagan deity�.?

 

 

 

oh and psst...originally the Quran's surahs didnt have names. Just thought id let you know.

 

 

Great�..then we are both in agreement that the sura�s were man-made�.and man-manipulated�.

 

 

 

Thanks�

deus could i have you post the email answer that i gave you, when you asked about the post? So we can shut up the troll once and for all?

The post was under your name�not Maxwell�s name.

just like all the verses you post along with word definitions. It is not the issue, the issue is the message, not the messenger.

In addition, you even bracketed the beginning and ending of Maxwell�s plagiarized webpaste with your own intro and ending�

and added other reseachers work aswell, in the sense that they wrote down from the sources that i listed for you. especially that of john allegro, and manley p hall - the secret teachings of all ages, where Maxwell obviously got most of the research in this article from.
This is called making a compendium.

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should focus on the message. Deus asked me about the work, and i answered him strieght out whoms work it was, altso.

It is simply amazing that you acknowledge that horus was the morning star and that he made his way into your beloved book of faith�   Now�.in your vast research into this area�.please inform us exactly how it is that Muslims worship a pagan deity�.?

Just like horus was the christ, just like he walked on water, died for 3 days and was ressurected. I think perhaps the reason someone named the sura like that is because of its reffrence to the piercing star within the sura. traditional refference works will tell you that it is sirius. and sirius is not associated with Horus, and the morning star is traditionally venus. This can be traced back to a greek system forming a trinity with sirius (Seirios)being the female diety. Get your facts streight atleast.

Again, you should rather focus on the material presented, than the way it was presented, nomatter if youre comfortable with it or not.
the issue here is not me, its the text!

As for pagan influences, i cannot and will not denie such. Personally im very sceptic about the ka'baa, as the black cube is an age old symbol of venus and saturn. Interresting that the name givers of the sura's would chose to call the sura the mornings star, and at the same time reffer to it being sirius in their refference works.







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Greetings Noah,

 

Thanks for your response�

 

 

just like all the verses you post along with word definitions. It is not the issue, the issue is the message, not the messenger.

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should focus on the message. Deus asked me about the work, and i answered him strieght out whoms work it was, altso.

Again, you should rather focus on the material presented, than the way it was presented, nomatter if youre comfortable with it or not.
the issue here is not me, its the text!

 

 

If the messenger (you) is an admitted plagiarizer�.and obviously does not put forth much effort past a five-minute �google-job��.then this definitely reflects upon the message contained therein, as it also is not very well researched�

 

 

 

and added other reseachers work aswell, in the sense that they wrote down from the sources that i listed for you. especially that of john allegro, and manley p hall - the secret teachings of all ages, where Maxwell obviously got most of the research in this article from.
This is called making a compendium.

 

Now�.you have just admitted to plagiarizing even more material than Maxwell�s�wonders never cease�

 

 

Just like horus was the christ, just like he walked on water, died for 3 days and was ressurected. I think perhaps the reason someone named the sura like that is because of its reffrence to the piercing star within the sura. traditional refference works will tell you that it is sirius. and sirius is not associated with Horus, and the morning star is traditionally venus. This can be traced back to a greek system forming a trinity with sirius (Seirios)being the female diety. Get your facts streight atleast.

 

Interresting that the name givers of the sura's would chose to call the sura the mornings star, and at the same time reffer to it being sirius in their refference works.

 

 

 

Since (according to your research) you have no issue at all with Horus being the morning star of  sura 86; let�s see how far the rabbit hole goes�

 

 

• Horus is the morning star�sura 86 is called the morning star
• Sura 86 is called the morning star not because it refers to a cosmological body, but because it refers to an �individual� �alttariqi�
• Horus was the light�the morning star was the light�86.3
• Horus was crucified�the morning star was crucified�86.6 � 86.7
• Horus was resurrected�the morning star was resurrected�86.8
• Horus was the word�the morning star was the word �laqawlun� �86.13
• This then makes the holy messenger�s word  �laqawlun� of 69.40 & 81.19, Horus, which occupies the throne of �allah�

 

 

 

Now�you have no choice but to accept these other facts that you also want to pertain to your pagan god Horus�and just from sura 86�.!

 

You truly do worship a pagan god�.

 

 

 

As for pagan influences, i cannot and will not denie such.

 

Good move�

 

For the most part, the Koran is 99% translated Biblical material.  However, it does contain quite a smorgasbord of other heretical Jewish and Christian scriptures as well.

 

Further, the �allah� of the Koran traces its roots back to pagan Arab deities�which should be right down your alley�

 

Basically, the pagan Arab god �allah� of the Koran has been wrapped in Biblical deity, by the authors who penned the text.

 

By doing so, the authors of the Koran have confirmed that Jesus is God Almighty.

 

We are sure that you were already aware of this�

 

 

 

 

Personally im very sceptic about the ka'baa, as the black cube is an age old symbol of venus and saturn.

 

 

The �kabba� concept, as most Islamic concepts, has its genesis in the Holy Bible.

 

The �kabba� is taken from the Book of Revelation.

 

 

Thanks�