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    Posted: 29 September 2009 at 10:42am

Van Jones last year while President of Green For All, during one of his many emotionally moving, awareness building speeches that have significantly contributed positively to our culture. This one at the 2009 Good Jobs, Green Jobs National Conference
Photo courtesy: Keith Mellnick/Blue Green Alliance.

Green Jobs Leader Resigns Under Personal Attacks

Van Jones, a long time leader of vision and commitment to green for all, has been the latest target of hypercritical personal attacks by extreme conservatives in Washington. He has stepped down citing that fighting the attacks would draw attention away from his mission of an inclusive green economy that is based upon the most fundamental of American values: equality, justice, and opportunity for all.

These extreme conservatives, opponents of progress and social justice, have again taken the personal attack strategy over the issue debate strategy. Its a very pathetic strategy indeed.

The foolish backwards tactics of attacking this leader won't deter the folks and followers that share the same vision as Van Jones. They know these kinds of tactics are intended to frighten and divide. Instead, its reaffirming their commitment, making them even more intent on pushing for their goals, including a climate bill that delivers on the promise of a clean-energy economy and green jobs for all.

According to Sarah Wheaton as printed in the NY Times, Van Jones resigned as the White House’s environmental jobs “czar” on September 5th, after weeks of controversy over his past comments and affiliations had slowly escalated.

Appointed as a special adviser for “green jobs” by President Obama, Mr. Jones was not subject to the traditional vetting process as are administration officials who must be confirmed by the Senate. So it was not until recently that some of Mr. Jones’s past actions received broad airing, including statements about Republicans in February and his signature on a 2004 letter suggesting that former President George W. Bush might have knowingly allowed the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks to occur in order to use them as a “pre-text to war.”

Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said that Jones had resigned because “the agenda of the president is bigger than any one individual” and he did not want the dispute to get in the way of creating green jobs in this economy.

After George Stephanoupoulos, the host of ABC’s “This Week,” asked several questions about Mr. Jones’s past controversial statements, Mr. Gibbs said that the president did not endorse what he said.
Mr. Jones’s involvement in the 1990s with a group called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement had prompted recent accusations by conservative critics that he associated with Communists. The group, according to a post-mortem written by some of its founders, was an anti-capitalist, antiwar organization committed to achieving “solidarity among all oppressed peoples” with “direct militant action.”

Republican blogs and conservative talk show hosts, notably Glenn Beck of Fox News Channel, seized upon Mr. Jones’s statements and associations. Mr. Jones apologized for derogatory words he directed at Republican opponents of Mr. Obama’s Congressional agenda during said lecture, calling his remarks “inappropriate” and noting that they were made before he joined the administration. Mr. Jones has also said in the past that the Sept. 11 petition did not reflect his views.

“I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past,” Mr. Jones said in a statement announcing his resignation. That message was followed by another from Nancy Sutley, chairwoman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, affirming that she had accepted his resignation.

Representative Mike Pence of Indiana, chairman of the House Republican conference, called on Mr. Jones to resign, and Senator Christopher S. Bond of Missouri called for a hearing on Mr. Jones’s appointment. Mr. Obama has appointed more than two dozen special advisers who are not subject to the confirmation process.

Before joining the Obama administration, Mr. Jones wrote the book “The Green Collar Economy” and co-founded several nonprofit organizations, including the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights and Green for All.

Howard Dean, the former head of the Democratic party, defended Mr. Jones. “This guy’s a Yale-educated lawyer,” Mr. Dean said on “Fox News.” He’s a best-selling author about his specialty. I think he was brought down, and I think it’s too bad. Washington’s a tough place that way, and I think it’s a loss for the country.

“Look, all of us campaigning for office have had people throw clipboards in front of our face and ask us to sign. And he learned the hard way you ought not to do that. But I don’t think he really thinks the government had anything to do with causing 9-11.”

Mr. Beck, who regularly draws almost three million viewers on Fox News, first criticized Mr. Jones in July, in segments on his syndicated talk radio show and then again on his television program, according to Christopher Balfe, the president of Mr. Beck’s production company. Mr. Beck called Mr. Jones a “communist-anarchist radical.” (Ed note: has Eugene McCarthy arisen from the dead?)

A few days later, Mr. Beck called President Obama a racist on a Fox News morning show, leading Color of Change, an activist group co-founded by Mr. Jones four years ago, to call on Mr. Beck’s advertisers to stop sponsoring his TV program. Color of Change says Mr. Jones is no longer affiliated with the group.

As the advertiser campaign heightened, Mr. Beck devoted more time to broadcasts of Mr. Jones’s past remarks. Dozens of advertisers have subsequently issued statements to distance themselves from Mr. Beck’s show in the past month, but Fox said no revenue had been lost.

Mr. Balfe emphasized that Mr. Beck had spoken about Mr. Jones’s background before Color of Change “began targeting Glenn.”

In a statement by Mr. Beck, he said that Americans had demanded answers about Mr. Jones, but “instead of providing them, the Administration had Jones resign under cover of darkness.”

Mr. Beck added: “I continue to be amazed by the power of everyday Americans to initiate change in our government through honest questioning, and judging by the other radicals in the administration, I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future.”

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Peter Baker contributed reporting from Washington, and Brian Stelter and Joseph Berger contributed from New York.

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Van Jones, a long time leader of vision and commitment to green for all, has been the latest target of hypercritical personal attacks by extreme conservatives in Washington. He has stepped down citing that fighting the attacks would draw attention away from his mission of an inclusive green economy that is based upon the most fundamental of American values: equality, justice, and opportunity for all.
The article failed to mention a single "personal attack", simply because the objections to him were not personal. His own words drew criticism, along with his beliefs. So now when we object to someone based upon their beliefs this is now personal?
The utopian "progressive wet dream" about an inclusive greens economy is simply a bed time fable to the masses of automotons who sacrifice in their own lives while the elitists use all means necessary to make their own lives comfortable.
Do not be duped by cheap, remedial rhetorical drivel,

“The study’s results,” Dr. Calzada wrote in the paper’s introduction, “demonstrate how such ‘green jobs’ policy clearly hinders Spain’s way out of the current economic crisis, even while U.S. politicians insist that rushing into such a scheme will ease their own emergence from the turmoil. … This study marks the very first time a critical analysis of the actual performance and impact has been made.”

The following represent some of the study’s key findings:

  • The U.S. can expect 2.2 jobs to be destroyed for every 1 renewable job financed by the government.
  • Only 1 in 10 of the jobs actually created through green investment is permanent.
  • Since 2000, Spain has spent €571,138 ($753,778) to create each “green job,” including subsidies of more than €1 million ($1,319,783) per wind industry job.
  • Those programs resulted in the destruction of nearly 113,000 jobs elsewhere in the economy.
  • Each “green” megawatt installed destroyed 5.39 jobs in non-energy sectors of the Spanish economy.
  • The total over-cost—the amount paid over the cost that would result from buying the electricity generated by the renewable power plants at market prices—between 2000 and 2008 amounts to 7,918.54 million Euros ($10 billion).
  • The total subsidy spent and committed to these three renewable sources amounts to €28,671 million ($36 billion).
  • Consumer energy costs in Spain would have to be increased 31 percent to repay the debt generated by the green jobs subsidies.

NOTE: According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), Spain’s annual emissions of carbon dioxide have increased by nearly 50 percent since the nation began its aggressive push to subsidize and support “green jobs.”

These extreme conservatives, opponents of progress and social justice, have again taken the personal attack strategy over the issue debate strategy. Its a very pathetic strategy indeed.
The man is a communist. That means his ideals are completely antithetical to the premise of liberty, libertairan thought, and free markets.
Social justice is steeped in Marxism. Where as libertarian ideals demands equal opportunity, social justice seeks equity in outcome. So some politician steels someone elses capital, and decides who sould get it. I would rather have a thief rip me off, that way when the theft is done, the theif is gone and I am done with them. For a self promoting politician, I have to hear their blathering after they rip me off about why they need to have the legal right to steal from me.
I am not suprised that a communist would want social justice. Benjamin Frankin once said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.".  Social justic will fall on its face because it is neither just nor honest.  
As far as progress is concerned:
A rapidly growing literature promises that a massive program of government mandates, subsidies, and forced technological interventions will reward the nation with an economy brimming with green jobs. Not only will these jobs improve the environment, but they will be high paying, interesting, and provide collective rights. This literature is built on mythologies about economics, forecasting, and technology.

Myth: Everyone understands what a green job is.

Reality: No standard definition of a green job exists.

Myth: Creating green jobs will boost productive employment.

Reality: Green jobs estimates include huge numbers of clerical, bureaucratic, and administrative positions that do not produce goods and services for consumption.

Myth: Green jobs forecasts are reliable.

Reality: The green jobs studies made estimates using poor economic models based on dubious assumptions.

Myth: Green jobs promote employment growth.

Reality: By promoting more jobs instead of more productivity, the green jobs described in the literature encourage low-paying jobs in less desirable conditions. Economic growth cannot be ordered by Congress or by the United Nations. Government interference - such as restricting successful technologies in favor of speculative technologies favored by special interests - will generate stagnation.

Myth: The world economy can be remade by reducing trade and relying on local production and reduced consumption without dramatically decreasing our standard of living.

Reality: History shows that nations cannot produce everything their citizens need or desire. People and firms have talents that allow specialization that make goods and services ever more efficient and lower-cost, thereby enriching society.

Myth: Government mandates are a substitute for free markets.

Reality: Companies react more swiftly and efficiently to the demands of their customers and markets, than to cumbersome government mandates.

Myth: Imposing technological progress by regulation is desirable.

Reality: Some technologies preferred by the green jobs studies are not capable of efficiently reaching the scale necessary to meet today's demands and could be counterproductive to environmental quality.

In this Article, we survey the green jobs literature, analyze its assumptions, and show how the special interest groups promoting the idea of green jobs have embedded dubious assumptions and techniques within their analyses. Before undertaking efforts to restructure and possibly impoverish our society, careful analysis and informed public debate about these assumptions and prescriptions are necessary.

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Bro. Thanks for your response to this commie lover's belated effort and providing the links about the green jobs!

So far GB show is concerned I have no personal liking for Glen Beck due his pro war views Obama is making in Afpak with a great cost to the American tax payer while their unemployment stands at double digit!

And he also happens to be an Islamophob to bootDisapprove

Having said that, what I see is that he provides information like an entertainer that others don't  and the info he put out for people on Jones was damaging enough plus what this administration is doing was mind boggling...

What is obvious Obama's place is crawling with Zionist tripe with some black socialists and Papal agents way out of proportion with their respective demographics are making monkey of everybody ....and no one dares to speak about the disaster that has hit America and what else is being brewed by this gathering of witches...the working Americans are either MIA politically or are totally bamboozled by this kumbya Marxist crowd!
The Bushies are too afraid to speak cuz of their past sins of their fathers...
If any who speaks is Cheney who is worried about his investment or his cronies in the MIC!
This Chicago Gang have hijacked guilt ridden, self absorbed simpletons through a high spending campaign with flair of Hollywood rhetoric ...they are  tearing down America brick by brick...offering unearned entitlements; a Marxism in reverse on the backs of the shrinking middle class...

 Even Glen is afraid to point out the Zionist background of the characters he puts on the blackboard  for his show for people to watch out ...

The Marxist campaign is going full bore around the world... watch out guys!
And who is getting killed under this green president? the jobs in US and Muslims abroadOuch
I hope the Americans wake up from the hubris before the place goes to dogs, wouldn't matter what color!

Edited by Sign*Reader - 23 October 2009 at 10:16pm
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