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Full of Hopes
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Hi Pati, How are you? You really amazed me by saying Palestine= Israel, having the same pain. It is like when there is a war between an elephant and an ant and someone say they all have the pain. I understand that even Israel have the pain but they are killers who have no mercy and the world is helping them. They are preventing human beings in Palestine form food and stopping the ships which came for help. Unfortunately, even Islamic countries help them to destroy the whole life on Palestine. I guess you do not follow the news maybe, because I ma sue you have a TV. Give the news sometime and then try to compare the pain every side have and at that time you can judge. Israel are having the pain of fear but they have food, clean water,hospitals and safe land .. They do not have to do this to get food, do they???? they are living, they try to make us feel sorry for them by saying the stones. Are not they throwing bombs at the babies?? They have been killing in a wild way that shows no feeling of humanity. They know nothing called human rights. Well I will not argue more about this because I have heard this discussion since my birth date. Maybe you have given them the solution by the one country on one land but that solution is difficult because the hate in everyone heart to the other. Just as an opinion your opinion in this point is better than the opinion of so many who say they are Muslims. HEY WAKE UP!!! watch the news to see if that is just propaganda. I will not argue on that again, it seems to me a waste of time. Arabs and Muslims have negotiations with Israel since I saw the light on this life, and NO SOLUTION until now!! so what!!! Edited by Full of Hopes - 26 September 2009 at 6:14pm |
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And whoever seeks a religion other than Isl�m, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Pati
Senior Member Female Joined: 10 April 2009 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 304 |
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Dear Zionistman,
Nice to meet you here, and I think it will be good for you to stay. I just want to tell you all one thing: I heard the pain from Jews, and I heard the pain from Palestinians too, and you know, it's the same pain. I am sure you will not understand me, but they are afraid from the same things, the only difference is that Israel is powerful, and Palestina is poor, but if you met normal people from both sides as I did, you will see that their complaints are the same. I feel that the only solution to this conflict will come from the normal people, the base of each society, trying to understand and respect each other. Maybe it's a dream, but that's what I feel. And I feel that both Governements are far far away from their people, and from their real needs, and that's so sad. For instance, I complain everytime about Palestine Government: how is it possible, with the amounts of international aids they are receiving daily, that their people don't have a minimum of social improvements? Opposite, the politicians are living better and better everytime, while the population are in first line of a lost battle against the most powerful army in the world. And opposite, I am complaining to the Jews. How is it possible that they don't even give a small chance to the Palestinians? Not all of them, I know few who started relations and that's good, but... not enough. I think that both sides should know and respect each other, and after that every agreement is possible. But I don't feel this respect between the Governments, and nothing coming from them is going to solve this. Zionistman, I am not Muslim, I am Catholic. And I think you are in the right place to complain, but at the same time to hear complains and to make the question: is it truth? I agree with you that lot of things coming from Palestinians are just propaganda (sorry to say, but that's the truth and there are a lot of investigations related), but not everything is false. There is lot of pain there and you have to note and feel it if you want to move on (and I am sure that both parts wants to move on). سلام / Peace / Paz / Pace
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No God wants the killing, but the peace.
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Zionistman
Starter Male Joined: 25 September 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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I cannot you are trying to intimidate me with your terrorist propaganda.
You talk about issues that would affect the heart of every decent person who loves justice and fears God. Perhaps misguided Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and Jews would feel sorry for this girl. However, I am neither one of those people. I am a zionist.
We Zionists are from a higher class than Jews, Christians or Muslims. While they believe in God, we believe in our political ideal. We were started by secularists for a good reason, a master race doesn't need God.
Don't get me wrong- we like to use religion as a shield, and enjoy using Judaism and Christianity as an excuse for the dirty work we need to do. There are plenty of rabbis and televangelists who we have managed to convince and pay off or intimidate to portray their religion as supportive of our goals. Personally that is why I admire Zawahiri and Osama, they can do with a mosque what we can do with a synagogue.
Don't you know that rocks wielded by toddlers can and have almost dented our tanks??? How do you think this makes our commanders feel??!!! I cannot believe you are so insensitive to our suffering!
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Full of Hopes
Senior Member Female Joined: 06 August 2009 Status: Offline Points: 855 |
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I want to be so polite with you as you have been so nice. Thanks for sharing us your thoughts and being honest but me too want to share you this photo. You will not need the source because they are every place and in every heart, Muslims and non Muslims. This is related to humanity not to Islam. Ok, they are billions and I care so much for people who watch, they will not bear to keep looking at them. Israel has been killing the men, women, children, babies, animals, trees, actually , destroyed the life there, then want no one to carry a stone..and should be full of tears to see the poor and very good soldiers being attacked by stones. Maybe they should throw some flowers and kisses on the killers. That seems funny.. we have to feel sorry for the stones they throw at you.. but not for the life you have destroyed in Palestine. again that is a funny joke. I think this place is perfect to know about Islam and be our brother in Islam. In this way you will succeed. May Allah help the poor and weak. And in fact God doesn't want the kill in any of the books and their Torah is not the actual words said by Allah, the Merciful. You know that their scholars have changed it just like the way they changed the book in Christianity. They add what they like and cancel what they do not like. In fact weapons are carried by people not by Allah words in His books. Allah in Quraan says: So Allah has created this life safe and beautiful but human beings are destroying it. Edited by Full of Hopes - 25 September 2009 at 2:49pm |
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And whoever seeks a religion other than Isl�m, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Zionistman
Starter Male Joined: 25 September 2009 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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My name is very special and all of you will get to know it one day. I am A Concerned Zionist.
I am posting on this forum because my helpless nation is being attacked daily by vicious stone throwing toddlers, human rights activists and Jews who follow their Torah and don't accept my nationalistic ideology.
I will seek to convince all of you and hope to succeed soon that Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East. We are always under attack and are always innocent of any wrong. We are victims of antisemitism and aside from the annual 3 billion dollars of US military aid, we are oppressed and despised by everyone.
Our tanks are attacked by stones, our fighter jets are shot at and when our soldiers go in to arrest and beat up teenagers and elderly people they are assaulted by human rights activists.
It just isn't fair. I hope you will all joing me in working for an Israeli only Middle East. Take care.
- A Concerned Zionist
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