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    Posted: 06 August 2009 at 5:40pm
THE divine name is found more than 7,000 times in the Holy Scriptures. Later, however, the Jews superstitiously refused to pronounce it, using instead the word �Lord.� (Jeremiah 23:27, 36) Christendom has followed the same tradition, even leaving the name out when copying the Scriptures. This has resulted in widespread ignorance concerning the greatest name. Although many have heard of the expression �the greatest name of God,� they still believe that today there is no way one can know this name. But is that true?

 ***The Qur�ān tells of someone �who was deeply versed in the Scriptures.***

(Al-Naml [27]:40, NJD) In explaining this verse, a commentary known as Tafsīr Al-Jalālayn says: �It was Asaph the son of Berechiah. He was a righteous man. He knew God�s greatest name, and whenever he called on it, he was answered.� But who is this Asaph the son of Berechiah who knew the greatest name of God? The Qur�ān very often advises turning back to God�s ancient books in order to obtain the answers. (See Yūnus [10]:94; Al-Naḥl [16]:43; Al-Anbiyā� [21]:7.) These tell us that Asaph the son of Berechiah was the one who by inspiration wrote Psalm 83. (1 Chronicles 15:17; Psalm 83, superscription) Verse 18 of this psalm says: �That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.� We thereby see that �Jehovah� is the greatest name.

All the Prophets in the Tevrat (Hebrew Scriptures) and Injil (Greek Scriptures) used the name of Jehovah, why not the prophet Muhammad?

Every careful reader of the Qur�an has seen that the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are time and again shown to be God�s Word. In the one hundred fourteen Suras of the Qur�an, at least sixty-two verses point out that these three writings come from God. And at least twelve other verses say that the Qur�an was written for the purpose of confirming these books. Yet, no-where do you see in the Qur'an
God's Greatest Name -JEHOVAH

On the OTHER-HAND Judaism teaches that while God�s name exists in written form, it is too holy to be pronounced (Superstition) and so removed it. Yet, that has not always been the Jewish position. About 3,500 years ago, God spoke to Moses, saying: �Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD [Hebrew: יהוה, YHWH], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you: This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.� (Exodus 3:15; Psalm 135:13) What was that name and appellation? The footnote to the Tanakh states: �The name YHWH (traditionally read Adonai �the LORD�) is here associated with the root hayah �to be.�� Thus, we have here the holy name of God, the Tetragrammaton, the four Hebrew consonants YHWH (Yahweh) that in their Latinized form have come to be known over the centuries in English as JEHOVAH.

 

The Hebrew Scriptures (Torah, Pentateuch) Mesoretic, Talmud and Septuagint Text and many OLDER texts shows God�s personal name, waaaaaay before the Quran was written.

 

Also, the Tanakh was written for the Jews, the Torah was for the Hebrews, big difference in people and how they worshipped. As you well know people seem to change with time but not God�s Holy Written Word.






Edited by Shibboleth - 08 September 2009 at 4:45pm
�If you doubt what we have revealed to you, ask those who have read the Scriptures before you.� (Sura 10, Yunis [Jonah], verse 94) & (Surah Al �Imran: 84-85)
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Originally posted by Shibboleth Shibboleth wrote:

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(See Yūnus [10]:94; Al-Naḥl [16]:43; Al-Anbiyā� [21]:7.)
These tell us that Asaph the son of Berechiah was the one who by inspiration
wrote Psalm 83.


10:94 (Y. Ali) If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
16:43 (Y. Ali) And before thee also the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration: if ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message.
21:7 (Y. Ali) Before thee, also, the apostles We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration: If ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message.
What are you talking about?I see no Asaph son of Berechiah.

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Originally posted by Shibboleth Shibboleth wrote:

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least twelve other verses say that the Qur�an was written for the purpose of
confirming these books. Yet, no-where do you see in the Qur'an God's Greatest Name -JEHOVAH
The Qur'an confirms the truths of the Books that came before it and the message of the Prophets(As)Worhip God and God alone.No we Muslims and Islam do not recognize the name Jehovah or father.You are still trying to compare the Qur'an to the Bible.We Muslims believe the bible is corrupt.see topic corruption in the Bible(Interfaith dialogue)
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5:48 (Y. Ali) To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah. it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;


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Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Hereafter:belief in] [Makkah:Mother of Cities] [Qur'an:confirms earlier Scripture] [Revelation] [Scripture belief in]


6:92 (Y. Ali) And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the mother of cities and all around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.


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Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:Lord of the Worlds] [Muhammad:did not fabricate the Message] [Qur'an:confirms earlier Scripture]


10:37 (Y. Ali) This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.


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Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Children of Israel:and the Qur'an] [Qur'an:confirms earlier Scripture]


46:10 (Y. Ali) Say: "See ye? If (this teaching) be from Allah, and ye reject it, and a witness from among the Children of Israel testifies to its similarity (with earlier scripture), and has believed while ye are arrogant, (how unjust ye are!) truly, Allah guides not a people unjust."


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Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Qur'an:Arabic] [Qur'an:confirms earlier Scripture] [Tawrah (the Law):confirmed by the Qur'An]


46:12 (Y. Ali) And before this, was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right.



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I will try to answer your questions as best as I can and I pray that you are sincere in your quest for understanding(InshAllah)(God Willing)May Allah Bless you(Ameen)

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Reference from the oldest book in the world, God's Word. If you go to the ORIGINAL scriptures of God's Holy writings, the Torah. Second, the Psalms. Third, the Gospel, it will show you God's name.

If you go to Psalm 83 you will notice in Psalms that  "A song. A melody of A′saph" is documented before you read the first verse. Psalms 83:18 says, That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

The superscriptions for Psalms 50 and 73 to 83 credit these songs to Asaph

Many of the Psalms have headings, or superscriptions, and these often name the writer, perhaps you just haven't notice it, it's a superscription that may be in small writings.

Let us repeat a verse from the Qur�an that was quoted earlier. But now we will discuss it from a different angle. �After those prophets We sent forth Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah already revealed, and gave him the Gospel, in which there is guidance and light, corroborating that which was revealed before it in the Torah, a guide and an admonition to the righteous. Therefore let the followers of the Gospel judge in accordance with what Allah has revealed therein. Evil-doers are those that do not base their judgements on Allah�s revelations.��Sura 5, Al-Ma�ida [The Table], verses 46, 47.


If, at the time these words were written, the Bible had already been corrupted, how could believers in the Gospel �judge in accordance with what Allah had revealed therein�? Thus believers in the Qur�an accept that the Bible was uncorrupted at the time the Qur�an was written (about one thousand three hundred years ago). On the other hand, there exist manuscripts of the Bible written four hundred or five hundred years before that time that are on public display in museums today. When comparing our modern Bibles with these ancient manuscripts, it is easily seen that there is no significant difference. The Bible is substantially the same. Certainly, the Bible has not changed since those words were written in the Qur�an saying that in the Gospel �there is guidance and light.�

Thus, a person who believes in the Qur�an will agree that the Bible has not been corrupted and that it is still the Word of God. But even for people who do not believe in the Qur�an there is abundant proof that the Bible has not been corrupted by men since its original writing. What proof? Why, those ancient manuscripts mentioned in the previous paragraph.


Regarding the Hebrew Scriptures (Tevrat), the external proof is equally strong that they have been preserved faithfully. The ancient copyists of those scriptures were renowned for their accuracy. Today there are seventeen hundred ancient manuscripts of the Hebrew Scriptures of the Bible in existence, and comparison shows them to be substantially the same. In 1947, some very ancient manuscripts were discovered in the region of the Dead Sea. They included some that were a thousand years older than any hitherto extant. Yet a comparison of these ancient manuscripts with our modern Bible shows little significant variation, especially with regard to teaching and doctrine.

After examining these newly discovered ancient documents, Professor Millar Burrows said: �The general reader and student of the Bible may be satisfied to note that nothing in all this changes our understanding of the religious teachings of the Bible . . . The essential truth and the will of God revealed in the Bible, however, have been preserved unchanged through all the vicissitudes in the transmission of the text.��The Dead Sea Scrolls, by Millar Burrows.
 

Is this not reasonable? Should we not expect that the Almighty God would be able to preserve his Word uncorrupted? The Bible itself says: �The green grass has dried up, the blossom has withered; but as for the word of our God, it will last to time indefinite.��Isaiah 40:8.

Muslims say "the Qur'an confirms the Bible" yet it doesn't support it's beliefs.

Please Be Careful my Brother

Every careful reader of the Qur�an has seen that the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are time and again shown to be God�s Word. In the one hundred fourteen Suras of the Qur�an, at least sixty-two verses point out that these three writings come from God. And at least twelve other verses say that the Qur�an was written for the purpose of confirming these books.

Here are some of these verses. �Children of Israel . . . Have faith in My revelations, which confirm your Scriptures.� (Sura 2, Al-Baqara [The Cow], verse 41) �A Book confirming their own has come to them from Allah.� (Sura 2, Al-Baqara [The Cow], verse 89) �When it is said to them: �Believe in what Allah has revealed,� they reply: �We believe in what was revealed to us.� But they deny what has since been revealed, although it is the truth, corroborating their own scriptures.� (Sura 2, Al-Baqara [The Cow], verse 91) �He has revealed to you the Book with the truth, confirming the scriptures which preceded it; for He has already revealed the Torah and the Gospel for the guidance of men, and the distinction between right and wrong.� (Sura 3, Al-Imran [The Imrans], verses 3, 4) �This is a blessed Book which We have revealed, confirming what came before it.� (Sura 6, Al-An‛am [Cattle], verse 92) �If you doubt what we have revealed to you, ask those who have read the Scriptures before you.� (Sura 10, Yunis [Jonah], verse 94) �What We have revealed to you in the Book is the truth confirming previous scriptures.��Sura 35, Al-Fatir [The Creator], verse 31.


To sum up, the Qur�an teaches that these three writings, the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel, are from God. They should be both recognized and obeyed.


Therefore the Bible does not need the Quran to confirm it's writings, it stands alone.

If the Qur'an does not recognize God's Great name but yet "confirms" these writings, something is seriously, seriously wrong.

May peace be on to you my friend



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Originally posted by Shibboleth Shibboleth wrote:


But now we will
discuss it from a different angle. �After those prophets We sent forth Jesus,
the son of Mary, confirming the Torah already revealed, and gave him the
Gospel, in which there is guidance and light, corroborating that which was
revealed before it in the Torah, a guide and an admonition to the righteous.
Therefore let the followers of the Gospel judge in accordance with what Allah
has revealed therein. Evil-doers are those that do not base their judgements on
Allah�s revelations.��Sura�5, Al-Ma�ida">If, at the time these words were
written, the Bible had already been corrupted, how could believers in the
Gospel �judge in accordance with what Allah had revealed therein�?
Salams,Shibboleth.Look at it this way ,what was the message that was revealed by all the Prophets(As)(SAW) Worship God and God alone.That was the Message Adam(As)show us when he slipped he ask God to forgive him and God alone he worshiped.Moses(As)God spoke to Moses and when Moses needed help who did he turn to God and God alone,went he slayed a man who's forgiveness did he ask of, God and God alone.
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