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Originally posted by Natassia Natassia wrote:

[QUOTE=Akhe Abdullah] [QUOTE=Natassia] � Like I said, Muslims believe these thoughts are recorded in the Quran, and Christians believe these thoughts are recorded in Jesus Christ.
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Yes, God's expression is also found in creation.

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However, creation does not necessarily point to Islam.� It simply points to the Creator.
You think you know what Muslim believe?I'm a Muslim and I believe that thoughts are for Humans,We can't contribute Human functions to Allah,only that they come from Him,(ALHamduillah)All praise is due to Allah.To us Muslims Allah is Almighty,Creator and Sustainer of the universe,Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him(AllahuAkbar)Allah is most high. Corrections:you say that creation does not necessarily point to Islam.Sister dont get it twisted,Islam means peace,submission and obedience.Islam actually explains the existance of life.Everthing submit to Allah ,Everthing!
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Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

Does that mean 'yes'?� [IMG]http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Confused" />
Laa(No)Na'am(Yes)Arabic through English translations.

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Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Akhe Abdullah wrote:

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Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book.
Not necessarily,

2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him.
 
You could argue though that the New Testament is also  Hadith?...as it was written by companions of Jesus who actually knew him. Any ideas?
 
I would say the New Testament is more like the Hadith.  The Hadith have Quran verses, but they also explain the context of them from the point-of-view of the narrators.  Sometimes you have one story being told by three different people, and so the hadiths somewhat differ in details.  However, it doesn't necessarily mean the event didn't happen.
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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Akhe Abdullah wrote:

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Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book.
Not necessarily,

2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him.
 
Are you attributing the word "Be" to always be the word of Allah?
 
You are thinking in very limited terms...limited human language.
 
The "Word of God" is equivalent to the THOUGHTS of God expressed to humans.  Like I said, Muslims believe these thoughts are recorded in the Quran, and Christians believe these thoughts are recorded in Jesus Christ.
 
Yes, God's expression is also found in creation.
 
However, creation does not necessarily point to Islam.  It simply points to the Creator.
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Does that mean 'yes'?  Confused
some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Laa!
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Originally posted by Akhe Abdullah Akhe Abdullah wrote:

[QUOTE=Natassia]
Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book.
Not necessarily,

2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him.
 
You could argue though that the New Testament is also  Hadith?...as it was written by companions of Jesus who actually knew him. Any ideas?
some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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[QUOTE=Natassia]
Muslims believe the word of God came to earth in the form of a book.
Not necessarily,

2:117- To Him is due The primal orgin Of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter,He saith to it: "Be",And it is.see there's the Word of Allah. I would'nt compare the Bible to Hadith,You see Hadith was reported by The companions (May Allah be pleased with them.)of Prophet Muhammed(SAW)who actually knew him.
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