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    Posted: 12 July 2005 at 12:01am
I am curious what the Imams in the US and Europe are saying about the murders in London - any thoughts/reports here?  Of course we continue to see extremists killing innocents in Iraq almost every day - however, there seems to be more and more progress in opposing them and allowing a Free Iraq to emerge...8.5 million voters in Iraq and millions of voters in Afghanistan, including 4 million women voting in Afghanistan is a GREAT THING indeed.
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Bismillah

You are being provocative... the statistical blabber in the tail-piece of your post only reveals your intentions.



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Originally posted by MOCKBA MOCKBA wrote:

"statistical blabber"


I'm very interested in truth..Numbers tell an important part of the truth - I'm sorry you disagree with that Mockba. 

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My friend, I am also a UK resident (not just living in Spain!) and a registered UK voter with a considerable stake in our country, her human friendly system and civic society.

Now, you know and I know the real cause of our London tragedy. What's far more important, our Brit friends are not Americans. They can think.

And, thank goodness, we all know the Imam who has put us in this firing line. Perhaps, you may not be able to understand so I will spell it out: Tony Blair's part in an illegal American invasion + brutal ugly occupation has caused our tragedy.

Your attempt at stirring your own agenda through our tragedy is not just out of taste but outright vulgar. We will forgive you. After all we know you are just an American!



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Brother Mockba, I have requested you somewhere in my earlier posts to behave with Americans on this site. You shouldn't embarrass them just because you can afford culture.

Let's be a wee considerate. You well know, it can be extremely difficult to grow beyond numbers (and, of course, sizes) when we haven't known anything else. Remember, when we are kids and, what do we learn growing up as the first thing?

1 . . 2 . . 3 . . 4 . . .

Please be kind to the kids of the world who may one day grow up to afford something beyond just dollars and numbers.



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Question to Whisper:

Quote: I will spell it out: Tony Blair's part in an illegal American invasion + brutal ugly occupation has caused our tragedy."

Hi,
I am a new user. I am came here to learn. I am curious why you say the above. How has the invasion of Iraq caused the London bombing? I simply do not see how killing 50 communiter on on the London tube could in any logical way be related.

(Fwiw, I was also against the US invasion of Iraq, although on the other hand, although I was disgusted by the Saddam regime too.)

How do you draw the line from one to the other?

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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

My friend, I am also a UK resident (not just living in Spain!) and a registered UK voter with a considerable stake in our country, her human friendly system and civic society.

B: OK.

Now, you know and I know the real cause of our London tragedy. What's far more important, our Brit friends are not Americans. They can think.

B: Right - yes, the Americans have no capability to think - there's a thoughtful, helpful insight..

And, thank goodness, we all know the Imam who has put us in this firing line. Perhaps, you may not be able to understand so I will spell it out: Tony Blair's part in an illegal American invasion + brutal ugly occupation has caused our tragedy.

B: No, Sasha, it's 'brutally' clear where you're coming from.  No need to spell it out...what you may want to spell out though are some evidences and specifics.  Your arguments have been terribly thin there.  Or link me to your earlier posts..  You want to talk about 'brutal and ugly and illegal?!?'
http://www.massgraves.info/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1410061.stm

Your attempt at stirring your own agenda through our tragedy is not just out of taste but outright vulgar. We will forgive you. After all we know you are just an American!

B: Sasha, why don't you step back and look at the bigger picture (i.e. regarding the links I included here) instead of choking so profusely on your hatred of Americans?  Further, you think the tube murders are London's tragedy alone ("through our tragedy") and not part of the worldwide scourge of terror that has impacted us all?  Talk about vulgar..what do you have to say for yourself?



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Originally posted by Derukugi Derukugi wrote:

Question to Whisper:

Quote: I will spell it out: Tony Blair's part in an illegal American invasion + brutal ugly occupation has caused our tragedy."

Hi,
I am a new user. I am came here to learn. I am curious why you say the above. How has the invasion of Iraq caused the London bombing? I simply do not see how killing 50 communiter on on the London tube could in any logical way be related.

(Fwiw, I was also against the US invasion of Iraq, although on the other hand, although I was disgusted by the Saddam regime too.)

How do you draw the line from one to the other?



Thanks for your input - what has caused you to be against the MNF liberation of Iraq, if, as you say, you were against Saddam's heinous regime?
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