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Saladin
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Saladin,
I don't see how the "root" below the crust is part of or even connected to the mountain on top of the crust. I also don't see how this fits with the expression that Mountains hold down the earth like tent pegs since the holding down of the earth's crust is accomplished via a heavy high density "root" that is not part of the mountain itself. But, if this is what you believe and the Quran's language can be interpreted with such great latitude and flexibility to accomodate the facts about this aspect of science, why do Muslims demand such a narrow interpretation of other passages and of Bible passages?
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Allah says: ( Have we not made the earth as a wide expanse, and the mountains as pegs? ) (78: 6-7)
The Verse indicates that mountains are pegs for the earth. A peg has part of it above the surface of the earth and the bulk of it underground; its function being stabilizing something else. Geographers and geologists, however, define the mountain as a landmass that projects conspicuously above its surroundings and is higher than a hill. Professor Zaghlul El-Naggar says: �All current definitions of mountains are confined only to the outer morphology of such landforms, without the slightest notion to their subsurface extensions which have lately proved to be several times their outward height.� Then he adds: �This fact started to come to light only in the middle of the nineteenth century, when George Airy (1865) proposed that the enormously heavy mountains are not supported by a strong rigid crust below, but that they �float� in a �sea� of dense rocks�. Airy�s theory became an actual fact because of the progressive knowledge of the internal structure of the earth by means of seismic measurements. It has become definitely known that mountains have roots extending deep in the ground and may be up to fifteen times the height of the outward protrusions above ground, and the mountains play a significant role in halting the horizontal jerky movement of the lithospheric plates. This role started to be understood in the framework of plate tectonics in the late 1960. Professor Zaghlul defines mountains in the light of this modern information by saying: �Mountains are merely the tops of great masses of rock, floating in a more dense substratum as icebergs float in water.� The Qur�an describes mountains in respect of their shape and function. Allah says: (And the mountains as pegs.) (78: 7) and (He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you.) (3: 10) and (And we have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and we have made therein broad ways (between mountains) for them to pass through; that they may receive guidance.) (21: 31)
Mountains are pegs with respect to the earth�s surface, for as most of a peg is hidden in the ground for stabilization, the bulk of a mountain is hidden underground to stabilize the earth�s crust. Moreover, as ships are anchored with anchors that are sunk in water, the earth�s crust is stabilized by its mountains with their roots extending in the mantle, a semi-liquid sticky layer upon which the earth�s crust floats. Its not a case of interpretating to accomodate the facts, Apollos. The Quran is clear about the fact.
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Akhe Abdullah
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As Salamu Alaikum, Saladin.Good job! May Allah Bless you(Ameen)
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As an illustration, consider a person who has done something wrong according to God�s standards. If God did not require full consequences/punishment for this wrong, God couldn�t be Just, could He? Yet if God requires this person to be punished, where is God�s Mercy? Allah does not require punishment for the wrong a person commits once the person turns to Him in sincere repentance. Allah says He created us weak; prone to sinning. Allah is the Most Just, He will never punish sinners without giving them the opportunity to repent. And once they repent sincerely, Allah the Most Merciful is Oft Forgiving.
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Another Muslim said bowing is not the same as worship - as you say. Do Muslims agree on this view? Also, are you saying that because humans have the spirit of God within them, that angels should bow down and worship some humans today?
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There's none worthy of worship besides Allah. The Angels were commanded by Allah to prostrate before Adam (to honor Adam) because Allah has cast a reflection of His divine characteristics on him (Adam). No creature of Allah was/is ever permitted to worship anyone besides Allah and no man now is permitted to bow or prostrate before anyone besides Allah.
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Alleged inaccuracy: Sura 86:5-7 tells us that man is created from a gushing fluid that issues from between the loins and the ribs. Is this saying that the semen which creates a child originates from the back or kidney of the male and not the testicles?
Please click on this http://www.answering-christianity.com/munir_munshey/semenproduction_rebuttal.htm to correct your misunderstanding.
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Alleged inaccuracy: Sura 23:13-14 � �Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature.� Is this supposed to be embryonic development? If so, it is totally wrong.
EMBRYONIC STAGES"Man We did create From a quintessence (of clay); Then We placed him As (a drop of) sperm In a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm Into a clot of congealed blood; Then of that clot We made A (foetus) lump; then We Made out of that lump Bones and clothed the bones With flesh; then We developed Out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, The Best to create!" [Al-Quran 23:12-14] Prof. Marshall Johnson is one of the leading scientists in US, and is the head of the Department of Anatomy and Director of the Daniel Institute at the Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia in US. He was asked to comment on the verses of the Quran dealing with embryology. He said that the verses of the Quran describing the embryological stages cannot be a coincidence. He said it was probable that Muhammad (pbuh) had a powerful microscope. On being reminded that the Quran was revealed 1400 years ago, and microscopes were invented centuries after the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), Prof. Johnson laughed and admitted that the first microscope invented could not magnify more than 10 times and could not show a clear picture. Later he said: "I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that Divine intervention was involved when Muhammad (pbuh) recited the Quran." According to Dr. Keith Moore, the modern classification of embryonic development stages which is adopted throughout the world, is not easily comprehensible, since it identifies stages on a numerical basis i.e. stage I, stage II, etc. The divisions revealed in the Quran are based on distinct and easily identifiable forms or shapes, which the embryo passes through. These are based on different phases of prenatal development and provide elegant scientific descriptions that are comprehensible and practical. |
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