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    Posted: 06 February 2009 at 8:45pm
HAVE A LOOK WHAT QURAAN SAID 1400 YEARS AGO
 (The images did not copy for some reason. I was brought up in a global neighbourhood and by very interesting and very strange parents. I could never have believed any of this till Gaza and without that great Globl Reaction being rubbed into my face)

القرآن يتحدث والواقع يصدقه  QURAAN

{ وَلَن تَرْضَى عَنكَ الْيَهُودُ وَلاَ النَّصَارَى حَتَّى تَتَّبِعَ مِلَّتَهُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَى وَلَئِنِ اتَّبَعْتَ أَهْوَاءهُم بَعْدَ الَّذِي جَاءكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ مَا لَكَ مِنَ اللّهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلاَ نَصِيرٍ } ( البقرة � 120 )

[120-121] The Jews and the Christians will never be satisfied with you, O Muhammad, until you follow their way.Tell them plainly,"The right way is shown by Allah." And if, after all the' knowledge you have received, you were to yield to their desires, you shall find neither any friend nor helper to protect you from Allah's wrath

 

اور تم سے نہ تو یہودی کبھی خوش ہوں گے اور نہ عیسائی، یہاں تک کہ تم ان کے مذہب کی پیروی اختیار کرلو۔ (ان سے) کہہ دو کہ خدا کی ہدایت (یعنی دین اسلام) ہی ہدایت ہے۔ اور (اے پیغمبر) اگر تم اپنے پاس علم (یعنی وحی خدا) کے آ جانے پر بھی ان کی خواہشوں پر چلو گے تو تم کو (عذاب) خدا سے (بچانے والا) نہ کوئی دوست ہوگا اور نہ کوئی مددگار (0۱۲

 { لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَدَاوَةً لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ الْيَهُودَ } (  المائدة - 82 )

] You will find that the most hostile of all people in their enmity to the Believers are the Jews

(اے پیغمبر!) تم دیکھو گے کہ مومنوں کے ساتھ سب سے زیادہ دشمنی کرنے والے یہودی اور مشرک ہیں

   

{ لُعِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَلَى لِسَانِ دَاوُودَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ذَلِكَ بِمَا عَصَوا وَّكَانُواْ يَعْتَدُونَ } ( المائدة � 78 )

78-81] Those who adopted the way of disbelief from among the children of Israel were cursed by the tongue of David and of Jesus. Mary's son, because they had grown rebellious and become transgressors

جو لوگ بنی اسرائیل میں کافر ہوئے ان پر داؤد اور عیسیٰ بن مریم کی زبان سے لعنت کی گئی یہ اس لیے کہ نافرمانی کرتے تھے اور حد سے تجاوز کرتے تھے

 

{ وَقَضَيْنَا إِلَى بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ فِي الْكِتَابِ لَتُفْسِدُنَّ فِي الأَرْضِ مَرَّتَيْنِ وَلَتَعْلُنَّ عُلُوًّا كَبِيرًا (4) فَإِذَا جَاء وَعْدُ أُولاهُمَا بَعَثْنَا عَلَيْكُمْ عِبَادًا لَّنَا أُوْلِي بَأْسٍ شَدِيدٍ فَجَاسُواْ خِلاَلَ الدِّيَارِ وَكَانَ وَعْدًا مَّفْعُولاً } ( الإسراء � 5 )

We forewarned the Israelites in the Scriptures:5 You will work great mischief twice in the land and will become overbearingly arrogant.6 When the occasion of the first of the two mischiefs came, O Israelites, We raised against you such of Our servants who were very mighty and formidable; so they penetrated through all parts of your country.

اور ہم نے کتاب میں بنی اسرائیل سے کہہ دیا تھا کہ زمین میں دو دفعہ فساد مچاؤ گے اور بڑی سرکشی کرو گے (۴) پس جب پہلے (وعدے) کا وقت آیا تو ہم نے سخت لڑائی لڑنے والے بندے تم پر مسلط کردیئے اور وہ شہروں کے اندر پھیل گئے۔ اور وہ وعدہ پورا ہو کر رہا

{ مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَى بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَلَقَدْ جَاء تْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ فِي الأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ (32) إِنَّمَا جَزَاء الَّذِينَ يُحَارِبُونَ اللّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَسْعَوْنَ فِي الأَرْضِ فَسَادًا أَن يُقَتَّلُواْ أَوْ يُصَلَّبُواْ أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُم مِّنْ خِلافٍ أَوْ يُنفَوْاْ مِنَ الأَرْضِ ذَلِكَ لَهُمْ خِزْيٌ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَلَهُمْ فِي الآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ }  (  المائدة - 33 )

32] That was why We prescribed this for the children of Israel:53 "He who killed any person, unless it be a person guilty of manslaughter, or of spreading chaos in the land, should be looked upon as though he had slain all mankind, and he who saved one life should be regarded as though he had saved the lives of all mankind."54 But the majority of them went on committing excesses in the land even after Our Messengers came to them one after the other with clear directions

اس قتل کی وجہ سے ہم نے بنی اسرائیل پر یہ حکم نازل کیا کہ جو شخص کسی کو (ناحق) قتل کرے گا (یعنی) بغیر اس کے کہ جان کا بدلہ لیا جائے یا ملک میں خرابی کرنے کی سزا دی جائے اُس نے گویا تمام لوگوں کو قتل کیا اور جو اس کی زندگانی کا موجب ہوا تو گویا تمام لوگوں کی زندگانی کا موجب ہوا اور ان لوگوں کے پاس ہمارے پیغمبر روشن دلیلیں لا چکے ہیں پھر اس کے بعد بھی ان سے بہت سے لوگ ملک میں حدِ اعتدال سے نکل جاتے ہیں (۳۲) جو لوگ خدا اور اس کے رسول سے لڑائی کریں اور ملک میں فساد کرنے کو دوڑتے پھریں ان کی یہی سزا ہے کہ قتل کر دیئے جائیں یا سولی چڑھا دیئے جائیں یا ان کے ایک ایک طرف کے ہاتھ اور ایک ایک طرف کے پاؤں کاٹ دیئے جائیں یا ملک سے نکال دیئے جائیں یہ تو دنیا میں ان کی رسوائی ہے اور آخرت میں ان کے لیے بڑا (بھاری) عذاب تیار ہے


{ لَقَدْ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ وَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ رُسُلاً كُلَّمَا جَاءهُمْ رَسُولٌ بِمَا لاَ تَهْوَى أَنْفُسُهُمْ فَرِيقًا كَذَّبُواْ وَفَرِيقًا يَقْتُلُونَ } (المائدة- 70)

We made a solemn covenant with the children of Israel and sent many Messengers to them; but whenever any Messenger came to them with a thing which was against their desires, they either treated him as a liar or slew him: yet they presumed that no mischief would come of it

 

 ہم نے بنی اسرائیل سے عہد بھی لیا اور ان کی طرف پیغمبر بھی بھیجے (لیکن) جب کوئی پیغمبر ان کے پاس ایسی باتیں لےکر آتا جن کو ان کے دل نہیں چاہتے تھے تو وہ (انبیاء کی) ایک جماعت کو تو جھٹلا دیتے اور ایک جماعت کو قتل کر دیتے تھے

مع تحيات .....

       { يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ (51) فَتَرَى الَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ يُسَارِعُونَ فِيهِمْ يَقُولُونَ نَخْشَى أَن تُصِيبَنَا دَآئِرَةٌ فَعَسَى اللّهُ أَن يَأْتِيَ بِالْفَتْحِ أَوْ أَمْرٍ مِّنْ عِندِهِ فَيُصْبِحُواْ عَلَى مَا أَسَرُّواْ فِي أَنْفُسِهِمْ نَادِمِينَ } ( المائدة - 52 )

O Believers, do not take the Jews nor the Christians as your friends: they are one another's friends only. If anyone of you takes them as friends, surely he shall be counted among them; indeed Allah deprives the wrong-doers of His Guidance.

You see that those, who have the disease of hypocrisy in their hearts, are always moving among them. They say, "We fear lest we should get involved in some disaster."84 But it may be that these people will feel ashamed of the hypocrisy they are hiding in their hearts; when Allah will give you a decisive victory or show something else from Himself

 

اے ایمان والو! یہود اور نصاریٰ کو دوست نہ بناؤ یہ ایک دوسرے کے دوست ہیں اور جو شخص تم میں سے ان کو دوست بنائے گا وہ بھی انہیں میں سے ہوگا بیشک خدا ظالم لوگوں کو ہدایت نہیں دیتا (۵۱) تو جن لوگوں کے دلوں میں (نفاق کا) مرض ہے تم ان کو دیکھو گے کہ ان میں دوڑ دوڑ کے ملے جاتے ہیں کہتے ہیں کہ ہمیں خوف ہے کہ کہیں ہم پر زمانے کی گردش نہ آجائے سو قریب ہے کہ خدا فتح بھیجے یا اپنے ہاں سے کوئی اور امر (نازل فرمائے) پھر یہ اپنے دل کی باتوں پر جو چھپایا کرتے تھے پشیمان ہو کر رہ جائیں گے

فسبحان القائل: { إِنَّ هَـذَا الْقُرْآنَ يِهْدِي لِلَّتِي هِيَ أَقْوَمُ وَيُبَشِّرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ الَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ الصَّالِحَاتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا كَبِيرًا (9) وأَنَّ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالآخِرَةِ أَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا }  ( الإسراء � 10 )

Indeed the Qur'an shows that way which is perfectly straight: To those who believe in it and do good deeds, it gives the good news that there is a great reward for them and to those who do not believe in the Hereafter, it gives the warning that a painful torment has been made ready for them.11

 

 یہ قرآن وہ رستہ دکھاتا ہے جو سب سے سیدھا ہے اور مومنوں کو جو نیک عمل کرتے ہیں بشارت دیتا ہے کہ اُن کے لئے اجر عظیم ہے (۹) اور یہ بھی (بتاتا ہے) کہ جو آخرت پر ایمان نہیں رکھتے اُن کے لئے ہم نے دکھ دینے والا عذاب تیار کر رکھا ہے  



Edited by Whisper - 06 February 2009 at 8:52pm
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Quote O Believers, do not take the Jews nor the Christians as your friends: they are one another's friends only. If anyone of you takes them as friends, surely he shall be counted among them; indeed Allah deprives the wrong-doers of His Guidance


This accounts for all of Arab peninsula, maybe this is the reason why they are being killed in an open.
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You know my usual take on this. I won't have stood so shocked but for global "support" of Israel through inaction and other tricks!
 
They want to dope us down with that great gaad of Demoncrazy as if it worked in their countries or has brought Peace to the world! 


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Bismillah,
 
The injustice commited against Palestinians ever since the colonisers stepped their shoes on the Holy Land is unimaginable. It should also be noted that the betrayal shown by the so-called Muslim leaders of the world against their own brethren is far more astonishing. 
 
The Qur'an reveals many explanations, however it is not the best way for us to simply pick verses and display them out of their contexts.
 
The Prophet (peace be upon him) continued to show compassion and kindness to the Jews of those days, despite their utter hatred and repeated insults shown in various forms and acts.
 
It is this compassion that turned many of those extreme haters to eventually become sincere Muslims. Islam is not about hatred, it is about endurance, perseverance and patience. Of course, it is easier said than done, but that's the best way, and the way of Muhammad (peace be upon him).
 
Where are we today?


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Originally posted by MOCKBA MOCKBA wrote:

 
 
The Qur'an reveals many explanations, however it is not the best way for us to simply pick verses and display them out of their contexts.
 
 
 

This is a very astute and critical point.  It is these types of verses (taken out of context) that are used to spread Islamophobia; �..and kill them wherever you find them�� ; giving the impression that Muslims are unable to be at peace with Christians and Jews.  We know that both groups thrived in Andalusia � as well as Muslim men, who given permission in the Quran to marry both Jewish and Christian women.  Allah says �People of the Book are not alike; among the People of the Book there are upright people, who recite Allah�s message throughout the night and prostrate themselves.  They believe right and forbid the doing of what is wrong, and vie with one another in doing good works, and these are among the righteous.  And whatever good they do, they shall never be denied the reward thereof, and Allah has full knowledge of those who are conscious of Him� (3:113 � 115)

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These Ayets had reasons. For that time, Jews were causing troubles.

IT IS NOT FOR ALL JEWS AND ALL CHRISTIANS.

Those are special issues.
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So christians, jews and muslims can never get along in life?

 
 
 
O Believers, do not take the Jews nor the Christians as your friends: they are one another's friends only. If anyone of you takes them as friends, surely he shall be counted among them; indeed Allah deprives the wrong-doers of His Guidance
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They can get along . . . they have in the past . . .
 
Its just that you really cannot 'trust' them to be your true allies. . . that is what Allah has warned us about.
 
And well, coincidentally, what we see today is that Christians and Jews will be each other's allies (I mean nations, not individuals) before allying themselves with a muslim nation. (USA, Israel ?)
 
However, I agree with the posts above - about taking verses out of context. I 'think' - correct me if I wrong (muslim members) that these verses have a political context.
 
 
 
"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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