Fathering of Jesus.

Hello, Friendship

Friendship wrote: Who is more worthy of worship? God the creation or God the Creator?

Bold emphasis within your quote is mine.

Could you please clarify God the creation in above? Haven't heard of that before. What are you trying to say?

Salaams

BMZ




Edited by BMZ - 19 December 2008 at 6:14pm

honeto wrote: Hi , as a Muslim, I don't see any reason to call God, father. As the term father is a wordly term, has its weaknesses. To a child abused by his/her father this word "father" may bring bad memories and may stand for bad, something of an abuser and so on, not of devine characteristics. In Quran, God is not mentioned as father of anyone. A muslim is very carefull not to add or substract to what is revealed by God. Thus God is our God, not father in Islam. Hasan

You know, I have been thinking about the idea that the word Father has a weakness.

It does not.

There are men who disgrace the calling of Father. But there are men who disgrace the calling of Human and disgrace the fact they are a creation of God.

There are men who malign the world God by ascribing it to things and to myths.

Father is the highest calling. You are responsible for the creation and care of the next generation. (As a human) You are protector, teacher, caregiver, discipliner, provider, and role-model.

There is no weakness to the calling of Father. But there are men, humans, who are unfit to carry this name. Calling God "Father" is acknowledging all that he is in one word. Most of the 99 names of God can be ascribed to a Father.

I mean, obviously ones like al-Hayy and al-Qayyum can only be given to God... this is what makes him more than "just" a Father.

My father had his human failings, but there is no other man on this planet who has shaped who I am more than he has. With that in mind, you men should keep that thought in your head when dealing with your children. You will shape what kind of men and women they become.

Father as the highest calling is Allah which in Arabic means the Lawgiver.

 

Please quote any sunnah or verses from the AlQuran that states Allah means the Lawgiver.

 

If we philosophically say Allah is our Father in a reflection of His Attributes,

 

It is you who said philosophically that Allah is your father, but never have I come across any Muslim scholars who dared to say that Allah is our Father (Astaghfiruallah!)

 

This position and responsibility given to us (human beings) by Allah was explained probably before He began the Creation of organic matter - 8 billion years ago -

 

Perhaps I am not studious enough, but I have not come across any exact calculation from our Muslim scholars - that Allah began the Creation of organic matter  - 8 billion years ago.