cadnu wrote: Dear seekshidayath, It is really unfortunate that such things happen. India has been blaming Pakistan for what happened, but it does not support it by any proofs. But initial reports say that they belong to a previously unknown group known as "Deccan Mujahideen" which wants a separate state for Hyderabad.  I heard of separatism in Telangana, but not about Hyderabad.  Any information about it?

Beards do not make terrorists.  Mohammed Atta wasn't wearing a beard when he climbed on his plane.  Carrying out an attack means getting to the target.  If you have a long beard, kufi and fatigues, likely the police are going to stop you long before you get to the target.

There have been increasingly warnings about training Western looking men to carry out attacks.  Mentally ill converts from the West.  I doubt if any of these warnings turn out to be facts that these men will attack in media approved terrorist garb.

India has been at a crossroad since the Mugals were removed from power by the British.  The loss of power and status is harmful to any community and does not always have much to do with religion.

I personally see the problems in India being more about colonialism than religion.  Hindus and Muslims lived side by side for several centuries.  Its the partitioning of Pakistan, the loss of Bangledesh, the limbo of Kashmir and the oppression of minorities in India.

Religion is often an excuse for more mundane battles.  Do you really think the Christian Crusaders were motivated by religion when there was so much gold to be had in the Holy Land?

I think you will find these babies were born muslim or maybe even converts from poorer castes of Hindus.  They will have been jobless, marginalized and radicalized.

India has more problems than I care to count and Hinduism has had an affect on more than just Hindus.  My sister is currently battling with her secretary because she labeled my sister a lower caste and does not feel she should have to obey orders.  A society that breeds this kind of mentality will never have equality and justice.  The whole of Gujarati Muslims would be better to move North than to ever expect justice and equality. 

Islam does not demand these actions.  However, these boys are being taught something else and they are being told its Islam.  Thus, they go into these situations thinking they are doing it in the name of God, etc, and so forth.

Much like an abortion clinic bomber thinks he's doing Christ's will. 

However, the first words posted here contained that word I hate so much went talking to people about these things. 

BUT.... 

The whole world has been rightly prompt to condemn these heinous killings in India. But let us think about the response of the world powers when hundreds of people are dying every week in Iraq and Afghanistan. It seems that the blood of Muslims is the cheapest on earth. Injustice breeds injustice. We need to address the root cause of injustice, and only then will we achieve a lasting peace.

seekshidayath wrote:   And what are you saying of this "Deccan Mujahideen". Its only from you that am hearing so. Is it from "Cadnu channel" . I heard that they cud trace its IP address from outside India.

Hey, i thought you would know it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_Mujahideen

"A group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility for the attacks but little is known of it."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7752173.stm

And of course BBC isn't mine. :)

seekshidayath wrote: Telangana, is anyways done. Very soon, it shall be declared a separate state. Don't you know that all those political parties did consent  for it. Infact they are all fighting to take its credit. I shall give its credit to KCR, anyways. Its not that serious issue that anyone needs to blast there at Mumbai, for telangana in Andhra Pradesh

I know about Chandra Babu Naidu.  So soon India will have 29 states.

Seekshidayath:
Please ignore the irony, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have referred to this writer...I found this article at morning perusal of LA Times!
The article has created a fire storm of criticism on its publication from the Hindu  readership online.... I am still formulating my thoughts on this!

Now the addition of Zionists to the mix just wait how bad the things get!..

See if the facts and figures are correct in the article...
Indeed, the government report I read about in the newspapers two years ago acknowledged that Muslims in India had become "backward." "Fearing for their security," the report said, "Muslims are increasingly resorting to living in ghettos around the country." Branding of Muslims as anti-national, terrorists and agents of Pakistan "has a depressing effect on their psyche," the report said, noting Muslims live in "a sense of despair and suspicion."

According to the report, produced by a committee led by a former Indian chief justice, Rajender Sachar, Muslims were now worse off than the Dalit caste, or those called untouchables. Some 52% of Muslim men were unemployed, compared with 47% of Dalit men. Among Muslim women, 91% were unemployed, compared with 77% of Dalit women. Almost half of Muslims over the age of 46 couldn't read or write. While making up 11% of the population, Muslims accounted for 40% of India's prison population. Meanwhile, they held less than 5% of government jobs.

The Sachar committee report recommended creating a commission to remedy the systemic discrimination and promote affirmative-action programs. So far, very few of the recommendations have been put in place.

Since reading the report, I have feared that Islamic militancy would be born out of such despair. Even if last week's terrorist plot was hatched outside India, a cycle of sectarian violence could break out in the country and push some disenfranchised Muslim youth to join militant groups using hot-button issues like Israel and Kashmir as inspiration.

What has irked me these last years is how the world has glossed over India's problems. In 2006, for instance, former U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen, whose Cohen Group invests heavily in India, said the U.S. and India were "perfect partners" because of their "multiethnic and secular democracies." When I asked to interview Cohen about the socioeconomic condition of Muslims, his public relations staffer said that conversation was too "in the weeds." But, to me, the condition of Muslims needs frank and open discussion if there is to be any hope of stemming Islamic radicalism and realizing true secular democracy in the country.

India's 150 million Muslims represent the second-largest Muslim population in the world, smaller only than Indonesia's 190 million Muslims. That is just bigger than Pakistan's 140 million Muslims or the entire population of Arab Muslims, which numbers about 140 million. U.S. intelligence reports continually warn that economic, social and political discontent are catalysts for radicalism, so we would be naive to continue to ignore this potential threat to the national security of not just India but the United States.

Throughout my 2006 journey, I found the idea of India's potential for danger unavoidable. On one leg, my son tucked safely in bed with my mother in our Taj hotel room, I went out to watch the filming of "A Mighty Heart," the movie about the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl by Muslim militants in Pakistan. When the location scouts needed to replicate the treacherous streets of Karachi's militant Islamist culture, they didn't have to go far. They found the perfect spot in a poor Muslim neighborhood of Mumbai.


Edited by Sign*Reader - 01 December 2008 at 10:40pm