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abosait
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[وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَـئِكَةِ]This Ayah means, "O Muhammad ! Mention to your people what Allah said to the angels, [إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِى الأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً]Meaning people reproducing generation after generation, century after century, just as Allah said, [وَهُوَ الَّذِى جَعَلَكُمْ خَلَـئِفَ الاٌّرْضِ] [وَيَجْعَلُكُمْ حُلَفَآءَ الاٌّرْضِ] [وَلَوْ نَشَآءُ لَجَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ مَّلَـئِكَةً فِى الاٌّرْضِ يَخْلُفُونَ ] [فَخَلَفَ مِن بَعْدِهِمْ خَلْفٌ]It appears that Allah was not refering to Adam specifically as Khalifah
Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibrahim Abu Zur`ah, who read the Scripture, reported that Al-Walid bin `Abd Al-Malik said to him: "Does anyone have the right to question the Khalifah You have read the first Scripture and the Qur'an, and you have understood them.'' He replied, "May I speak, O Commander of the faithful'' He said, "Speak, for you are under the protection of Allah.'' I said, "O Commander of the faithful, are you more dear to Allah, or Dawud, peace be upon him For Allah gave him both prophethood and rulership, then He warned him in His Book: [يدَاوُودُ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَـكَ خَلِيفَةً فِى الاٌّرْضِ فَاحْكُمْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ بِالْحَقِّ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعِ الْهَوَى فَيُضِلَّكَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ]Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that `Uthman bin `Affan said, "The Ayah: [الَّذِينَ إِنْ مَّكَّنَّـهُمْ فِى الاٌّرْضِ أَقَامُواْ الصَّلَوةَ وَآتَوُاْ الزَّكَـوةَ وَأَمَرُواْ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَنَهَوْاْ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ]was revealed concerning us, for we had been expelled from our homes unjustly only because we said: `Our Lord is Allah.' Then we were given power in the land, so we established regular prayer, paid the Zakah, enjoined what is good and forbade what is evil, and with Allah rests the end of (all) matters. This is about my companions and I.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah said, "They were the Companions of Muhammad .'' As-Sabah bin Suwadah Al-Kindi said, "I heard `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz give a speech and say: [الَّذِينَ إِنْ مَّكَّنَّـهُمْ فِى الاٌّرْضِ]Then he said, "This is not obligatory only for those who are in authority, it also applies to those who are governed by them. Shall I not tell you what you can expect from your governor, and what duties those who are ruled owe to him Your rights over your governor are that he should check on you with regard to your duties towards Allah and restore the rights that you have over one another, and that he should guide you to the straight path as much as possible. Your duties towards him are that you should obey him without cheating and without resentment, and you should obey him both in secret and openly.'' `Atiyah Al-`Awfi said, "This Ayah is like the Ayah: [وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ ءامَنُواْ مِنْكُمْ وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَاتِ لَيَسْتَخْلِفَنَّهُمْ فِى الاْرْضِ] [وَلِلَّهِ عَـقِبَةُ الاٍّمُورِ]This is like the Ayah: [وَالْعَـقِبَةُ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ]Zayd bin Aslam said: [وَلِلَّهِ عَـقِبَةُ الاٍّمُورِ]"And with Allah will be the reward for what they did.'' Edited by abosait - 11 January 2009 at 3:01am |
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asda
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FIRST OF ALL.....PLEASE DONT COMPARE THE NOMINATION OF MU'AWIYAH WITH THE NOMINATION OF ALLAH (s.w.t)...ITS A GREAT OFFENCE.....
it seems u r comparing that Allah (s.w.t) chose prophets...and da same way mu'awiyah chose yazeed...thus the process of choosing is wrong....thats the point u r trying to make.... u have said that the "way of choosing khilafat" is not the same...and the words are just to describe a general phenomenon. which has happend in the past i.e. Making the khalifa......but ure views contradict to the views of the mufasireen.. the mufasireen of the aayah 24:55 have actually compared the situation in this aayah to be the situation of the people of Israel wen it comes to making a khalifa...and da general fact is that Prophet Moses made Prophet Joshua the successor before dying... u can read the tafseer of this aayah from the following link: http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=24&tAyahNo=55&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0 the fightings occured due to the rebelious nature of people like mu'awiyah....those who were on haq remained on it....and no doubt whatever anybody says, Imam Ali (a.s) was on HAQ as was said by Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w).. i dont see any problem with the system of nomination by Allah (s.w.t)...as he knows everybody's intentions....and his nomination is PERFECT...and without any flaws...and that is what has happened before the time of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)... Edited by asda - 21 October 2008 at 8:02am |
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minuteman
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I did not blame the Shias. There is no Tohmat. There were no Shias when Khilafat was established by Allah. Please note that Allah promised those who belived and did befitting deeds that he will establish them in land as He established those before time. How He will do it is another matter, not discussed here.
The promise is about the establishment of Khilafat as it had been the practice of the past. That He established Khilafat in the past too. It is not necessary that the modus operandi should also be the same. The method of establishment is not necessary that a person will be nominated. Ours is a new religion, different to the Jewish and Christians. It is written in the Quran that the matters will be decided by consultation and not nomination.
We thank Allah that the prophet did not nominate any successor otherwise this religion would have been like kingdoms. Just imagine asda, what happened when hazrat Mua'wiyah nominated yazeed. Do you see the problem of nominations. It is no where in the world in present times.
In the believers are all included, the Sahabas (Companions) including the ahle bait al Ali and ahle bait an Nabi. They are all believers, followers of the prophet s.a.w.s. The only condition is that if the believers performed befitting deeds then Khilafat will be established. If their deeds will not be befitting, the Khilafat will be taken away from them.
That is what happened during the time of Hazrat Ali r.a. They were all divided and there was too much infighting. That was the end of Khilafat e Rashidah. Edited by minuteman - 19 October 2008 at 8:55pm |
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asda
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Actually i wanted to know ure position, as to ure planning in future...but if u want to take this thread and prove the khilafat of abu bakr, then its ure own choice
br. minuteman..... Please quote the exact translation of the verse to avoid TAHRIF AND MISUNDERSTANDING and gunaah... 24:55. All�h has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Isl�m). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the F�siq�n (rebellious, disobedient to All�h). http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah24.html My question still remains, is there any example in the past b4 Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) which shows similarity of appintment of khalifa as was done at Saqifa????
how does it include the matter of caliphate and successorship wen Allah (s.w.t) has already said that he will establish Khilafa....now u have kept it on muslims.....arent ure views in contrast to each other...i mean they contradict...
The above points have been answered to u...but still...i will repeat it.....the teachings of the prophet (s.a.w) was complete and usefull to whole mankind...so please dont accuse the shias of believing that his teachings went in vain....its a tohmat....
these are vain attempts...plzz....the matter of khilafat could have been decided after 2-3 days after the Prophet's burial....THE ARMY OF THE PROPHET (a.s) WAS NOT SLEEPING AT THAT TIME!!!!!! Edited by asda - 18 October 2008 at 11:51am |
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Sign*Reader
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The answers given are just great
It took 14 centuries for the enemy to pull it down it must have some thing good to talk about! Edited by Sign*Reader - 18 October 2008 at 12:57am |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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minuteman
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Quite an important question about establishment of Khilafat in the Ummah. The first point to remember is that by a Hadith, it is informed that every prophethood is to be followed by the Khilafat (reference later Insha Allah).
1. Every prophet will be followed by the Khilafat.
Now Umar and Abubakr were just the two persons. Please read the verse 24:55 which says:
24:55, It is Allah's promise to the believers (with Minkum) and those who do befitting deeds that He will surely establish Khilafat for them in the land. And He (Allah) will grant strength to the religion that He had preferred for them. And He (Allah) will change the state of any fearfulness into peacefulness.
They will serve only Me (Allah) and they will not associate aught with me (by Shirk). And any one who disagreed with that (Khilafat) after it was established then those will be the fasiqoon ( The breakers of oath of allegiance).
In the verse above, it is the promise of Allah to the believers. It is not a propmise to Abubakr or Umar. It is a promise to all believers that He will surely establish Khilafat amongst them. We know that Allah does not forget His promise.
Now please come back to the actual question of how the Khilafat will be established amongst all Muslims (Not only amongst Abubakr or Umar). Please note as follows:
1. As per Quran, all important matters of the Muslims are decided by mutual consultation (Mushawarat).= (Wa Amruhum Shoora baina hum)
2. The 23 years life period of the prophet and his teachings are enough to guide the Ummah. The Muslims have the book of Allah and a complete picture of the life of the prophet (Sunnah) before them. The various struggles during the 23 years are enough to guide them to the right path.
3. The practical teachings of 23 years cannot be said to go down the drain in a moment. One christian asked me the same question about how and why the Khilafat can be established. I gave same reply that teachings of 23 years are enough to guide the followers.
4. They know what to do and how to do. The whole lot can't be ignorants.
5. There is always severe danger after the death of the prophet and a state of great fear for the Ummah, as mentioned in the verse 24:55.
6. The enemy is usually ready and poised to attack the already sorrowful Ummah whose Imam has passed away. No moment should be lost in chosing the new Imam.
Whether any one will agree with me or not. But that is what I feel about the establishment of Khilafat e rashidah in the Ummah. Abubakr, Umar , Uthman and Ali (r.anhum) were all the truely guided caliphs of this Ummah. Wassalam. mm
Edited by minuteman - 18 October 2008 at 12:16am |
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Friendship
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The kind of leadership we are looking for today is that of the Democracy described by Allah in Exodus 18:13-27 and Duet 1-9-18 and Qur'an 17:41 and 49:13. In Islamic jurisprudence this is called Mulk Nabawiyy and not Mulk Siyasi or Tab'iyy. Allah will not choose a leader for us using His hands Power and Might. He has chosen Islam for us, completed and perfcted it and was pleased with it as our way of life. He described to us what to look for in choosing a leader in the Scriptures right from Prophet Abraham and concluded by Muhammad Rasulullah. For example the holy Prophet appointed leaders based on the knowledge they had of the Sunna and not the mere knowledge of holy Qur'an. Allah gave us the choice to choose between evil and good, peace and conflict. He could choose a leader a leader for us but that will be against His Will Plan and Decree, for He said in Qur'an chapter 26:4, If We will, We could send down to them from the heaven a sign, to which they would bend their necks in humility. We are looking for a way out, but we refused to recognize it despite the disaster facing the world. So Allah said, Qur'an chapter 26:5; And never comes there unto them a Reminder (Katrina, Al-Qaeda, Economic downturn, earthquakes, flood, draught etc) as a recent revelation from the Most Gracious, but they turn away therefrom. I will repeat: the hisory of Joseph in Egypt, Moses in Egypt and Muhammad in Madina are enough to convince even the most imbecile about the need we come back to the Shari'a of Allah. Allah stopped choosing leaders on His Own Accord after Muhammad Rasulullah. Remember the story of Saul revealing that when people want peace they must resort to Allah. How could David slaughter the giant Goliath? So, it is only a Khalifa that can bring peace to the world and not the brute might of Washington, Britain, Germany, France, japan and their accomplices the Arab monarchs. We fight with tongue and not missiles!
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asda
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But what kind of leadership are we looking at?? democratic??? dictator?? etc??? has god shown us the way things will be govenrned on earth after Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)??
ok,from the knowledge i take from ure statement, my questions is, Does Allah (s.w.t) chooses a leader for us?? as i have heard from other members that the khilafat e rashideen was established by Allah (s.w.t)...(mazallah).. |
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