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    Posted: 10 May 2008 at 5:15am
seekshidayath -  LOL!!  Too funny.
 
Seriously though Jesus is the GOOD NEWS, Gospel.  He is the message of the Gospel.
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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honeto - You mean the Book that contains the Torah and Injel confirmed by Moahammad and Quran?
 
We believe in the label not the contents
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Besz�l itt valaki magyarul?
 
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admin: we don't know what that mean so we can not publish it.


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honeto - You mean the Book that contains the Torah and Injel confirmed by Moahammad and Quran?
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote honeto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2008 at 3:39pm

John DM,

I think its a waste of time to quote and prove something from a book that have a big problem with being credible. I may have considered  what you have said, if I had not known the book. I have read it, it has many fundamental inconsistancies. You won't sign a bank document if you found an error on it?

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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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The Christians are told that Christ has victory over Death.

The Skull and Crossbones is a sign of Death at 611. (Made up of the Skull
at 322 + Crossbones at 289 the Crossbones + 2 Skulls is 933 the
Biblical Beast to come up out of the sea of people and start marking them
and 322 x 40 is Eve at 12880).

Now there are four time important periods, namely from conception
death on the Cross at 12,880 day, and from conception to 2:35:35am on
Ascension Day on May 18, AD30 is 12,920.48075 days and from birth at
2:30am October 1, 6BC to death on the Cross at 3pm Friday, April 7,
AD30 12,607 days and from birth to Ascension Day at 2:23:35am May
18, AD30 is 12,647.48075 days.

Multiply all four and squared once and cubed once x 3 is equivalent to
the Holy Ghost at 1,288,000 x 6.110000e+15 and /4 and cubed.

So the Holy Ghost, the spirit body of Jesus Christ leaves his natural body
and soul at death and by this act defeats Death at 611.

Clever whosoever worked this out for people like me and so to Number
Form Follows Measurement Function.

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Islam�s Cresent Moon

As there are seemingly few dates in Islam from where I come from I have
to dwell upon the start of the calendar in AD622.

So to 'Number Form Follows Measurement Function'.

And the crescent Moon is a symbol used by Islam, a Moon which only ever
shows us 59% of her face. The first chapter of Genesis says the token, the
Moon, is as a ruler of darkness. As every Moslem knows Abu al-Qasim
Muhammad was persecuted for his teachings in Mecca and fled to Medina
in AD622. This flight to Medina in AD622 is known as �The Hegira�. In
Medina, Muhammad became a leader and theocratic head of the town.
Muslims reckon time from the new Moon early in the morning on Hegira
July 16th in AD622 which is the year 1 A.H.

And so rather easy counting shows that the Israelite�s Exodus in 1441BC
which the Bible says was 430 years after Abraham first visited Egypt at
the age of 75 years old in the year 1871BC. Abraham was 99 years old in
1847BC, some 1,876 years before the Crucifixion on April 7th AD30.
And when Abraham was 99 years old he was told by God to make the
covenant sign of circumcision, and Ishmael, the son of Abraham, was 13
years old when he was circumcised. And Ishmael lived 124 years after his
circumcision. And so we understand that Islam came out of Ishmael so to
speak, and so we need to consider seriously the year 1847BC.

Now counting from the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ of Nazareth at 9am on
Friday, April 7th AD30 to 3:30am July 16th AD622 the first day of the
Islamic calendar, is 592.273 years, x 365.242198 days and divided by 12
periods of 29 days 12 hours 44 minutes 03 seconds (354.3670531 days)
is some 610.4494 lunar periods x 12 months.

Next, I multiply 1876 years from Ishmael�s blood covenant with God to
the blood covenant of Jesus Christ with God at his crucifixion, x 610.4494
12 lunar periods x 3 and divided by Pi twice is equivalent to 5,900 x
5,900.

The number 59 refers to the Pharaoh�s insignia as a Ruler of Darkness,
that is the goddess serpent of Delta Egypt at 17 + the vulture goddess of
Narrow Egypt at 42.

Now to the Book of Enoch, which tells of the Sun and Moon cycles in the
other dimension, I presume to be Hades. The Moon has a cycle of 354
days, compared to the 354.367 days for our Moon�s 12 cycles around the
Earth.

Now one sixth of 354 days is 59 days, a number associated with the
Knights Templar, an example being the Temple Church of the Virgin Mary
off Fleet Street, London, which has an unusual round nave at 59 feet
diameter, a radius of 29.5 feet.

This simple bit of arithmetic reveals that the Islamic religion is of the
Moon, and the Moon is the token for the Ruler of Darkness. And this
calculation had for its very fulcrum the date of the Crucifixion, when the
Sun was unseen for a time, so darkness can be the very proof that there is
a True God.

But then curiously I can contrive something extra, because 5900 x 5900 x
Ishmaels� 124.0036 years from circumcision to death and cubed twice is
equivalent to 611 x 611 x 611 x 611 x 611 x 6.110000e+72.

But this must be a coincidence.
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Someone was counting one tenth of time, times and half a time at 126.

The Judgment of Prophet Daniel

Daniel (God is my judge), was one of the four great prophets, although he
is not once spoken of in the Old Testament as a prophet. His life and
prophecies are recorded in the Book of Daniel. He was descended from
one of the noble families of Judah (Dan. 1:3), and was probably born in
Jerusalem about 623BC, during the reign of Josiah. At the first
deportation of the Jews by Nebuchadnezzar, young Daniel and three other
noble youths were carried off to Babylon.

In Babylon, (today�s Iraq and since about the 1920�s has a land area of
168,000 square miles x 0.75 is 126,000), Daniel was obliged to enter into
the service of the king of Babylon, and in accordance with the custom of
the age received the Chaldean name of Belteshazzar, meaning �prince of
Bel�. His residence in Babylon was very probably in the palace of
Nebuchadnezzar and at the close of his three years of discipline and
training in the royal schools, Daniel was distinguished for his proficiency
in the �wisdom; of his day.

He soon became known for his skill in the interpretation of dreams and
rose to the rank of governor of the province of Babylon, and became
�chief of the governors� over all the wise men of Babylon. He made known
and also interpreted Nebuchadnezzar's dream; and many years
afterwards, when he was now an old man, amid the alarm and
consternation of the terrible night of Belshazzar's impious feast, he was
called to interpret the mysterious handwriting on the wall. He was
rewarded with a purple robe and elevation to the rank of �third ruler�.
Daniel interpreted the handwriting, and �in that night was Belshazzar the
king of the Chaldeans slain�. After the taking of Babylon, the great ruler
Cyrus was now master of all Asia.

The time and circumstances of Daniel�s death are not recorded. He
probably died at Susa, about eighty-five years of age. The prophet
Ezekiel, with whom he was contemporary, mentions him as a pattern of
righteousness and wisdom.

So Belshazzar, co-regent of the Babylonian Empire, watched as these
words were supernaturally written on the palace wall: �MENE, MENE,
TEKEL, UPHARSIN.� (Meaning �Numbered, Weighed and Divided� as well as
measurements).

�Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was
written. And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL,
UPHARSIN. This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath
numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the
balances, and art found wanting. PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and
given to the Medes and Persians. Then commanded Belshazzar, and they
clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and
made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in
the kingdom. In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans
slain.� Daniel 5:24-30

Each of the words the fingers inscribed on the wall is a measure of
weight. The basic Babylonian unit of weight was the gold shekel (tekel).
The mena equalled 50 shekels; the upharsin (half a mena) equalled 25.
The four words, therefore, stood for: mena is 50 shekels; add a mena of
50 shekels add a tekel of 1 shekel and add a upharsin of 25 shekels, a
total is 126 shekels. And 126 represents not only the Ancient Egyptian
�Eye of Horus� it refers to the human mind, the human spirit man within, a
metaphyiscal body that is released at death. So Daniel deciphered the
spiritual �hand writing� as �126�.

And Daniel was told by an angel the importance of �time, times and half a
time� that is 1,260 days and its relationship to the end times.
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