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so...is it allowed or not?!
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Originally posted by Saladin Saladin wrote:

Masturbation would have nothing to do with chastity IF it could be done with a blank mind. Could it?
Confused I'm not sure I follow you.  It can be done without lusting after a particular person, if that's what you mean.  It can also be done while fantasizing about a perfectly legitimate relationship with a future wife -- or with a slave girl, which (remarkably!) I understand is permissible in Islam.
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im unable to quit it.Is it really a sin?I read somewhere that it is in no case a sin but I still pray to Allah every night to help me direct on right path.
 
I last max 10 days but then loose control.
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Masturbation would have nothing to do with chastity IF it could be done with a blank mind. Could it?
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Okay, I'm not a Muslim, but I have to comment on this because it's just plain illogical:
Quote This Aayat shows masturbation to be Haraam because of two reasons: Firstly, in this Aayat Allah Ta�la has given the command of chastity and, according to the principles of Fiqh, a command (an imperative) denotes Wujoob (incumbency, obligation).
Okay, but what does masturbation have to do with chastity?  Isn't that just begging the question, i.e. assuming the conclusion you are trying to prove?
 
Quote And if assuming, it was permissible, then Allah Ta�la would have mentioned it at this point because this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Ta�la with regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that masturbation is Haraam.
But again, doesn't this assume the conclusion?  Why does masturbation "require an explanation" in a passage discussing marriage and chastity?
 
If the mere silence of the Quran on a subject is sufficient to declare it haram, then the list of things that are haraam becomes endless.  I guess even using a computer would be haraam.
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Being chaste is being pure in spirit. Its not neccessarily a physical state. A chaste woman who's raped, remains chaste.
 
Masturbation is certainly haraam, considered to be a lesser form of zina. However as some scholars opine, if a person is in a situation that will lead to zina and had to chose between zina and masturbation, the lesser of the two evils may be chosen and Allah is Most Forgiving. Habitual masturbation is not excusable.
 
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How can a man be chaste? Masturbation is not vaginal intercourse...
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Allow sw declares one must protect their chastity until they get married, masturbating is not protecting your chastity. And Allah sw knows best. If I wasn't so busy, I would have loved to expand on this...take care

Edited by Ruhi Islam - 12 October 2008 at 1:34pm
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